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Thread: The Elitist Chat Thread

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    yes afaik he is absent at the moment, but was something planned anyway

    yes, we miss him


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    So, do you think the curia is dying? Or this is just a phase? I do not think there has never been such a low stage, but I'm not a veteran here.
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    Hopefully it's just a phase, I have a boyish dream of House Politics/politics rising and a politicial game happening among the ambitious/active citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostySOTF View Post
    Hopefully it's just a phase, I have a boyish dream of House Politics/politics rising and a politicial game happening among the ambitious/active citizens.

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    Really? Are you GED's alt? Well, you won't tell me if so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethencourt View Post
    Really? Are you GED's alt? Well, you won't tell me if so.
    He has similar hopes? Finally! A kindred spirit!

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    I think there is a lot of activity lately in the Prothalamos. Another thing is the lack of candidates for the offices and so the debates about it.

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    Days ago I was wondering what would happen without a single candidate for the censor or the curator (indispensable for the curia) role.
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    I think that the bitterness of some debates refrains, in general, the activity. When you are curator you are even more exposed to the criticism. The will to participate in that election process and the role of the office depends on the perception we have of the benefits of it in comparition to other activities. In CDC times the curator was the leader of a "select" group, so it had a higher glamour level. Now maybe it is seen as the guy for all. Maybe the doge of Venice before and now the chairman of the congress.
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    The Curator is merely a janitor, there isn't much to criticize. The problem is lack of time and interest. The whole site is in state a complete apathy and while certain areas have people who's job is to motivate and convince other people to participate the Curia has no such role.
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    The Doge? Maybe we can restore some glamour by an adequately pompous voting procedure as used in Venice:

    Go out and pick a random Peregrinus to draw thirty lots from a pool of all Citizens.
    These thirty are then reduced by lot to nine,
    the nine elect forty and the forty are reduced by lot to twelve,
    the twelve elect twenty-five, reduced by lot to nine,
    the nine elect forty-five, reduced by lot to eleven and
    the eleven elect forty-one that elect the Curator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iskar View Post
    The Doge? Maybe we can restore some glamour by an adequately pompous voting procedure as used in Venice:

    Go out and pick a random Peregrinus to draw thirty lots from a pool of all Citizens.
    These thirty are then reduced by lot to nine,
    the nine elect forty and the forty are reduced by lot to twelve,
    the twelve elect twenty-five, reduced by lot to nine,
    the nine elect forty-five, reduced by lot to eleven and
    the eleven elect forty-one that elect the Curator.
    That is a proof that having too much fresh water arround you is not good in long term.

    I think we better provide the curator with an iron exoskeleton with ability to fly and shoot at pleasure some kind of energy pulses.

    Maybe the CVRIA needs a long term project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Shuu View Post
    The Curator is merely a janitor, there isn't much to criticize. The problem is lack of time and interest. The whole site is in state a complete apathy and while certain areas have people who's job is to motivate and convince other people to participate the Curia has no such role.
    First the Curator is not a janitor. A janitor cleans. A Curator is an administrative position. That being said, the Curator doesn't have a mandate. They do not bring change. They certainly can propose ideas and people for awards, but so can any citizen.

    Over the years the administrative tasks of the Curator has increased. While the Curator can hire assistance, you still need to find them. If I am not mistaken, Shanks had few assistants who disappeared on him. The Censors performs an unenviable task. Most people do not like judging their peers. There is also little fanfare in the position since the proceedings are all behind close doors. There are certainly more worth while roles to do on the forum than the Censor. Moreover, members do not like to be "moderated" and citizens hate to be called out even more.

    I said this a 1000 times it seems, but the Curia draw isn't what it once were. It survived under the misguided notion that it is something more than it is now. You throw in the pettiness, over exhaustive debates, and a change in the type of users on the forum and it is not surprising the Curia is a virtual ghost town.

    I personally think the modern user is less concern with award given than in years past. They are ore concern about the areas of the forum they are most interested. In these areas, they may be interested in recognizing contribution, but not site wide. Any attempt to convince these users of the utility of a Curia is an exercise in futility. The internet evolves. The site must be flexible enough to meet the demands or it will be cast aside as irrelevant.
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