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    Default Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}



    O P T I M A T E S:

    BY THE SWORD AND BY THE WORD, THE REPUBLIC WE'LL UPHOLD!


    What the Optimates are:

    Fellow Senators! As you may have witnessed yourselves, our party was beginning to grow decadent after the many consulate periods of same politics. Since our main goals have been realized, as a strong empire in the western Mediterranean and many other, I believe it's high time we compromised with the times we 'live' in. Our strategy in the Senate House must clearly evolve in order to be in touch with the situation of the Republic.

    To that end, any enlisted Optimas can propose here any desired course of action but be aware that the Optimates were originally supposed to be the conservative wing; in the shake of historical accuracy, let's not stroll too far from this truth, eh?

    Finally, since I was long gone, I do not know which members are still with us in our cause. Please repost your will to join our merry band!

    PROUD MEMBERS OF THE OPTIMATES:

    i. C. FABIVS MAXIMVS (Fabius Maximus)
    ii. M. AELIVS TRIARIVS (Maxim Victor)
    iii. FAUSTUS CASSIUS (Faustus Cassius)
    iv. M. POMPEIUS (Pompey117)









    edit: Historically the Optimates called themselves "Boni Viri", the good men or the noble men. Just to explain the thread's title!
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    Welcome back Marcus Iunius, we need your spirit and passion if we should be able to rule inside the cura.
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    ooc:They were just called the boni, not the boni viri

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    ok, well im back

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    Please add member names at the first post Fabius
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    it seems the optimates arent going to well.
    im going neutral and seeing who will win me

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    I think I'll do the same, though I like parts of each group. By conservative, do you mean you will support warring against aggressors?

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    Salvete Opties! Can I get a "AYE" from those willing to join my merry band? As soon as we are through with the membership thingie, we'll plan our policies. Thanks! Also, Optimates signature banner coming up shortly!

    it seems the optimates arent going to well.
    im going neutral and seeing who will win me
    Obviously you are not keen on Optimate's History; my party had been far worse than now and still I got it up and running to end up being the leading force in the Republic - which I then killed when I plotted a takeover (the BBC incident). Never, never, underestimate the Optimates, my friend! They'll always be back...
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    OOC:Hell Yeah!!
    Good to have you back Fabius
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    Added you Victor!
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    By the way, could someone with good trait in signature making (ehem... Caesar Rex maybe?) provide us with a good signature badge with the following image as it theme?



    I would be most grateful...
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}



    What happened to this one?

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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    I didn't remember that one at all, sorry!
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    Party threads will now be moved to the Rostra, hopefully giving them more attention.

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    Hah, you're always so helpful to threads Winter. No wonder you got citizen!


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    A messenger arrives from the street

    It is with a heavy heart that I must announce my withdrawal from this party. It seems that our interests do not align any longer. My positions as tribune have altered my view of the empire and I now see that I was mistaken in joining this party.

    ~Caius Pontif

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    FABIVS, we need to make a stand before more of our members leaves this
    party.

    What is our goals this and the next coming terms?
    What possession in the curia do we wish to have?
    How should we attract more members?
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    What the Optimates Believe:



    I

    The Optimates are traditionalists and stubborn Republicans. They support -- better "enforce" the proper Roman ways in the Senate and the Constitution in almost every action. In order for a member to be fully viewed as "one of us", he must be well aware that our major principle is to uphold the Constitution and preserve its original values. That means that our members are openly opposed any constitutional reform that provides more power to a single individual for whatever be the reason. Also, we Optimates, respect the hierarchy of the Republic; causing disorders with the Consuls, the Tribunes, the Censor and any other official isn't something we want to do - the Republic must keep running at all costs! Lastly, as a good general rule, Optimates are by definition in hostile disposition with any ambitious general or politician and generally anyone that wishes to cause disorders to the status quo.

    II

    The Optimates are the politicians that ask for gradual expansion and assuming "defensive aggression" tactics against the foes of the Republic, meaning attacking only when the enemy is far too close on becoming a real threat. In general, our party is majorly against any motion for war that either grants power to a single individual or a war that is waged strictly on the grounds of fame and wealth for the commanding general. In the contrary, our members support war in the cases of "aggression" from any outsider and of course for economic benefits for the Commonwealth. It goes without saying that in order to declare war, the State must possess Casus Belli - either real or manifactured being no matter - in order to avoid stability issues in our back yard!

    III

    The Optimates are pro-slavery. We decree that in every campaign the outcome must be measured in lands conquered, coin recieved and slaves captured. Without slaves our ships have no oars; without slaves no major constructive program can take place; without slaves no mine can work with efficiency; without slaves our economy cannot last. For all these reasons, we Optimates decree in favor of slavery.

    IV

    The Optimates are against giving away the Roman citizenship without much consideration. For a region to be regarded as "Roman", it's people must work hard enough to emulate the proper mores and traditions of the Romans -- and maybe even then, citizenship isn't a sure bet.

    V

    Optimates are favoring discriminations between the Roman and peregrine populace in matters or taxes, military draft, job vacancies etc which should be in favor of true Romans. What is the point in conquering them if the conquerors live in the same conditions with the vanquished?
    Here! Let us start with these basic principles and as time move forth, I'll add more to the table. Also, it seems that many of our members have abandoned us now that we are week; no worries, it has happened before! We'll get through this with our principles, our values and our skills!


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    i wish to join please

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    Welcome Fauste! Added!
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    Default Re: Boni Viri: The Optimates Party thread {reformed thread}

    Welcome Fauste.

    Also it looks like our party is going to have a Consul as member next term.
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