== Consolidated “Lost” Units Project ==

[Lusted]

Edited by HorseArcher Sorry Lusted (if you still exists) i need to post this on the start page also

general rules:

1. Don't post here such as " when is it done?" or "very cool" and such praises and replies that absolutely doesn't contribute anything to the lost unit project. Any reply found such as those will be brutally deleted.
2. If you want to help, post it, but don't spam, I won't just delete your reply, i will also warn you if you spam around in this thread.

3. Any previous "lost unit" search team member has a full privilege to post anything as long as it's on the subject. They are also fully privileged to claim any reply (old or new) unimportant, and notify me or any moderator to get rid of them regardless who posted or what rank ( i'll happily delete Siblesz' replies as well grin.gif )

4. Stay on subject and no side tracking to modding an already available unit or request of skins and such. This is the lost unit subject not a " i want a skin thread.

Any of you don't like my rules and regulations, contact me and i happily let you know that they won't change no matter what. laughing.gif (just kidding, let me know if you got something against it and see what we can work out)

The replies i removed, is moved to this thread, available for browsing but locked so no more garbage can get in.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index...howtopic=26666












Seeing as myslef and several others have posted units they have discovered which CA didn't use i have decided to create a thread for all of them. A new woad warrior, a hoplite officer(who i think make a great swordsmen unit) and carthaginian archers have been discovered as well i think. If you discovered them please post the things here so people can use them.

My contribution: Thracian Hoplites and Iberian Spearmen

Iberian Spearmen



1) In descr_model battle add:

type iberian_medium_infantry ; combat spear
skeleton fs_spearman, fs_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture spain, data/models_unit/textures/unit_carthage_medium_infantry_spain.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_carthage_medium_infantry_high.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_carthage_medium_infantry_med.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_carthage_medium_infantry_low.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_carthage_medium_infantry_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite 60.0, data/sprites/carthaginian_medium_infantry_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

2) in export_descr_unit add:

type iberian medium infantry
dictionary iberian_medium_infantry ; Iberian Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Medium_1
soldier iberian_medium_infantry, 40, 0, 1
officer carthaginian_standard
mount_effect horse +4, chariot +4, camel +4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap
formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 7, 4, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 2, 1, 0, -1
stat_mental 6, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 400, 170, 40, 60, 400
ownership spain

3)In export_descr_unit_enums add:

iberian_medium_infantry
iberian_medium_infantry_descr
iberian_medium_infantry_descr_short

4) In export_unit copy the libyan spearmen and change the name and wording as you want and have the unit_enums things in the brackets.

Thracian Hoplites: These units have the top part of their arms missing so if someone can complete the texture they use it'll complete this nice looking unit.



1) In descr_model_battle add:

type greek_thracian_hoplite
skeleton fs_spearman, fs_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture thrace, data/models_unit/textures/unit_greek_militia_hoplite_illyria.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_militia_hoplite_400.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_militia_hoplite_300.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_militia_hoplite_200.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_militia_hoplite_100.cas, max
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_greek_hoplite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite greek_cities, 60.0, data/sprites/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

2) In export_descr_unit copy the hoplite entry change the copied verison so thrace own them and change the soldier to greek_thracian_hoplite and the name to greek thracian hoplites. This saves you adding descriptions of your own.

[vlad]

east oficers and musicians

[vlad]

also i find egypt standart oficer but i have problem with this unit , who can help me with this problem -and add unit in game
type egyptian_standard
;skeleton fs_standard_bearer
;indiv_range 40
;texture egypt, data/models_unit/textures/unit_egyptian_standard.tga
;model_flexi data/models_unit/officer_egyptian_standard_400.cas, 8
;model_flexi data/models_unit/officer_egyptian_standard_300.cas, 15
;model_flexi data/models_unit/officer_egyptian_standard_200.cas, 30
;model_flexi data/models_unit/officer_egyptian_standard_100.cas, 40
;model_flexi data/models_unit/officer_egyptian_standard_70.cas, max
;model_sprite egypt, 60.0, data/sprites/egypt_egyptian_elite_guards_new_sprite.spr
;model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5

*OD*

[Lusted]

I plan to create a download to add in all unused units. I have found a lancers unit for macedon but my computer is playing up so can someone test it please?

type greek lancers
dictionary greek_lancers ; Heavy Lancers
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier greek_lancers, 27, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -2, camel -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 14, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 7, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 9, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
stat_mental 10, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 830, 210, 40, 50, 830
ownership macedon

type greek_lancers
skeleton fs_hc_spearman, fc_hc_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture macedon, data/models_unit/textures/unit_macedon_lancer.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_lancer_v2_400.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_lancer_v2_300.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_lancer_v2_200.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_lancer_v2_100.cas, max
;model_sprite macedon, 60.0, data/sprites/macedon_greek_medium_cavalry_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

greek_lancers
greek_lancers_descr
greek_lancers_descr_short

{greek_lancers} Heavy Lancers

{greek_lancers_descr}
Lancers

{greek_lancers_descr_short}
Lancers

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[Tsarevna]

Spain is a weak faction, but it seems like the devs had some other units in mind for it, and implementing these does much for game balance. (Historically, Iberian cavalry were not bad by any standard; the Lusitanian horsemen being particularly good.)

Name: Long Shield Cavalry (Spain)
Unit card: Yes
Info card: Yes
Skin bugs: No

How to get it: Edit the export_descr_buildings.txt file. Find these lines, and insert the bold text. Don't forget to SAVE before closing. ***NOTE*** You should also add the text in bold to the other cavalry buildings for larger cities, just in case you conquer, for instance, a roman huge city with a hippodrome, so you can still produce these units.
}
cavalry_barracks requires factions { spain, scythia, germans, gauls, dacia, ct_carthage, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
{
capability
{
recruit "carthaginian warhounds" 0 requires factions { spain, }
recruit "carthaginian cavalry" 0 requires factions { spain, }
recruit "carthaginian medium cavalry" 0 requires factions { spain, }
(other unit things are below these lines, you can ignore these)
}
construction 4
cost 2400
settlement_min city
upgrades
{

[Tsarevna]

Name: Sacred Band Cavalry (Spain)
Unit card: Yes
Info card: Yes
Skin bugs: No

How to get it: Edit the export_descr_buildings.txt file. Find these lines, and insert the bold text. Don't forget to SAVE before closing.

}
temple_of_horse_large_temple requires factions { spain, gauls, }
{
capability
{
recruit "carthaginian royal cavalry" 0 requires factions { spain, }
happiness_bonus bonus 3
recruits_exp_bonus bonus 3
}
construction 3
cost 1600
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
*Don't forget to also edit the temple_of_horse_awesome_temple and the temple_of_horse_pantheon so you can get the unit after you take huge roman cities.

Step 2:

Open up the export_descr_unit.txt file. Find these lines, and add the bold text. Don't forget to SAVE.

type carthaginian royal cavalry
dictionary carthaginian_royal_cavalry ; Sacred Band Cavalry

blah blah blah, stuff about stats, now look to the bottom of the paragraph,

ownership carthage, spain

[Tsarevna]

Name: Indian Elephant (seleucia, parthia, carthage, mercanary, egypt(?))
There exists a texture for an indian elephant wearing yellow cloth, maybe it was intended for egypt? It seems to be the egyptian color.
Unit card: Yes, but wrong (african elephant image used)
Info card: No
Skin bugs: No
Model bug: Well, not really a bug, but the howdah (tower) on the elephant's back needs to be taller. And perhaps longer. (Right now it only goes up to knee-hieght, lookin stupid.) :devil

How to get it: Edit the export _descr_units.txt file. Find these lines, and where it says "mount elephant african", replace with "mount elephant indian". ***Use the find tool (CNTRL + F) to search for greek_elephant_african, carthaginian_elephant_african, merc_elephants, and east_elephant_african***

Example:

type greek elephant african
dictionary greek_elephant_african ; War Elephants
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier greek_elephant_archer, 18, 6, 1
mount elephant indian
(you can ignore the lines below this)


Seleucia and Parthia most likely used indian elephants (historically). But there is some debate about Carthaginian elephants. Coins and stele from carthage show elephants being ridden which have concave backs, typical of african elephants. But Livy recorded that Hannibal's personal and favorite elephant was named Syhrus, which means "from Syria." Asian elephants were traded all around the middle east, so it's likely that Carthage, being a major trade city, would buy some Indian ones from time to time to suppliment it's stock. So basically, Hannibal probably employed both types of elephants in his war.







If you would like to help in the creation of (or just show support for) a cataphract asian elephant model, please click here to visit the thread.

[Lusted]

Fallingstar, i woul love to join the TTO. Thank you for your contribution Tsarvena, but coul you modify your posts so it says the one line. Heres another i discovered:

Greek Sacred Band:



descr_model_battle:

type greek_sacred_band
skeleton fs_spearman, fs_swordsman ; combat spear
indiv_range 40
texture greek_cities, data/models_unit/textures/unit_sacred_band.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_sacred_band_v2_400.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_sacred_band_v2_300.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_sacred_band_v2_200.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_sacred_band_v2_100.cas, max
;model_sprite greek_cities, 60.0, data/sprites/greek_cities_greek_armoured_hoplite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite carthage, 60.0, data/sprites/carthage_greek_armoured_hoplite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5

export_descr_units

type greek sacred band
dictionary greek_sacred_band ; Greek Sacred Band
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier greek_sacred_band, 40, 0, 1.3
officer greek_standard
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy
formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 12, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr spear
stat_sec 7, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 4, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 8, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 640, 210, 70, 100, 640
ownership greek_cities

export_descr_unit_enums

greek_sacred_band
greek_sacred_band_decr
greek_sacred_band_descr

export_units

greek_sacred_band
greek_sacred_band_decr
greek_sacred_band_descr

Also i have found there is a carthaginian skin for scutarii and macedonian skins for hoplites an armoured hoplites, parthian skins for eastern spearmen. There is also a new greek archer skin an peltast skin but i cant find moels for them yet. Ill have another search later, see what i can find.

[Red Harvest]

Originally posted by Tsarevna@Jan 27 2005, 05:09 AM
Seleucia and Parthia most likely used indian elephants (historically). But there is some debate about Carthaginian elephants. Coins and stele from carthage show elephants being ridden which have concave backs, typical of african elephants. But Livy recorded that Hannibal's personal and favorite elephant was named Syhrus, which means "from Syria." Asian elephants were traded all around the middle east, so it's likely that Carthage, being a major trade city, would buy some Indian ones from time to time to suppliment it's stock. So basically, Hannibal probably employed both types of elephants in his war.

Hannibal used forest elephants--as did the Ptolemies when their supply of elephants from India was cut off by the Seleucids. (Livy added a lot of "embellishment" to his writing to entertain the reader...so I would not be too concerned about a name that he probably made up anyway.) Forest elephants still exist and have been proven by DNA testing to be a distinct species from the African elephant--which should have been obvious since there are differences in the structure of the foot and the ivory, etc., as well as size. All of the large elephant types in the game should be Indian elephants. From what I've read the large African savannah elephant was not used militarily.

[Lusted]

redHarvest, i am trying to keep this thread devoted to new unit discoveries. Okay over the weekend i plan to create a download which will add in the following:

NEW UNITS:
-lancers
-swordsmen(my take on how to use the discovered hoplite officer)
-theban hoplites(the greek sacred band i discovered)
-thracian hoplites
-iberian spearmen
-wild woad warriors(with discoverors permission if he will give it)

ADD IN UNITS TO FACTIONS:

-Carthage: Scutarii, archers
-Britons: Head Hunting Maidens, Chosen Archers, Archers, Barbarian Cavalry, Barbarian Infantry
-Spain: long shield cavalry, chosen swordsmen, sacred band cavalry
-Numidia: libyan spearmen, sacred band cavalry
-Eastern Officers
-Indian Elephant mounts for parthia and seleucids

[vlad]

i find greek oficers (maqcedon, greek citys, celeucid and thrace) *OD*

[vlad]

also egypt oficer screen *OD*

[Titus Andronicus]

I've found these:

Cavalry:


And archer:

[Lusted]

I've got the cavalry unit in game for the britons i think, or something very similar. Vlad, im using the hoplite officer for a swordsmen unit. Sorry redharvest for what i said. If you could send me those skins webbird because they are uber cool i could add them in to the download i am creating. There are older versions of pharaohs bowmen and guard which i will add in .I will also add to the download:
-Parthia: eastern spearmen, cappadocian cavalry
-Seleucids: desert infantry
-Greek Cities: macedonian cavalry.

and vlad could you tell me the model you used for thse scytian swordsmen.

[Titus Andronicus]

and the older pharaohs bowmen as everytime i add them in the game crashes

Remove the semicolons (;;;; from descr_model_battle file. They look very well, even though they have nothing to do with history.



And here are the older guards:

[vlad]

i must say this is cool units *OD*
not bad add this units in my mod too in next version *OD*

[Tsarevna]

Name: Scythian Cataphract horse
Skin Bugs: legs of horse not textured, belly of horse is black

How to get it: Open up the export_descr_unit.txt file. Find the Scythian horse unit you wish to have the cataphract skin. Find the "mount" line, and erase what is there, and type "horse cataphract" , minus the quotation marks.
Don't forget to save before closing. **Theoretically this skin could be applied to any horsed unit, i chose Scythian Nobles for my screenshots.

Example:

type barb scythian nobles scythian
dictionary scythian_nobles_scythian ; Scythian Nobles
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier barb_scythian_lancer, 27, 0, 1
mount horse cataphract

[Tsarevna]

Name: Night Raiders (Gaul)
Skin bugs: No


How to get them: Well that's complicated. Maybe i'l post how to do that later. Or i'l just let Lusted figure that out for his project tongue:::

Pretty wierd, they look like they are wearing chaps. Kinky.

[WEIRDSHADY]

i found a alternate cataphract model with a neat shield, just remove the word heavy from the descr_model_battle cataphract entry. ill post a screen tomarrow...must sleep now...

[WEIRDSHADY]

here is a pic of the cataphract with shield. ill see what else i can dig up to help to day.