Promo of the Final release graphics

**Gaio Giulio Patrizio** · July 12, 2008, 07:18 AM

XD lol

**GreatOne** · July 13, 2008, 08:42 AM

Great looking units

**♔Sherlock♔** · July 15, 2008, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by El Muerte

Please.....no more overhand grip....it is inaccurate.
There is not a shread of written evidence that hoplites fought in overhand grip with tumb facing butt-spike,unlike underhand grip.
Aspis and 2.5m long spear and euqipment are not designed for such use....
In not saying they didn't thrust over shields but im saying they didn't held spears in this manner (thumb towards butt-spike).
Herodotus , Xenophon and other mentiones underhand grip.....
Once again they didn't used stabbing grip, becouse it lacks, mobility,speed,recoil it is painful (wrist take all stress instead muscles in underhand grip with thumb facing spear tip) ,tireing and lacks balance and inpractical for back lines to thrust over first line.
I beg you not to import classic missguided overhand grip into this excelent mod.Make your models hold spears in underhand manner but over shields.....or next to them.

I have a simple video El Muerte, to show why you are wrong:

**El Muerte** · July 17, 2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrtaeus

I have a simple video El Muerte, to show why you are wrong:

LOL good video but quite inaccurate.
And you shown high underhand grip mate

Read my last sentence again.
Btw your clishee argument can be applied ONLY if fellow soldier stands behind your right arm and has no shield betewwn you and him

If that was the case then first type of phalanx (like sumerian) would also be overhand wich is not

http://www.shunya.net/Text/Herodotus...ianPhalanx.jpg
I was about to make some videos and photos.....in time i will post them here

In one of my previous posts...i think i posted audio lecutre about hopolites from one of American Uneversitys.If you want it...I can send you a link, just to show you how wrong you are

Is that power point you made this ?

**♔Sherlock♔** · July 17, 2008, 03:42 PM

I used a program called stick pivot animator(google it), then I put it all together and add text in Windows Movie maker.

Yeah, send me the lecture if you want.

**Blue_Hoplite85** · July 26, 2008, 03:26 PM

r u guys using some kind of a new graohics engine or somethin??

**El Muerte** · July 27, 2008, 05:17 AM

Here is 30 minute audio lecture about Hoplite Warefare, technique and 90% of delusions people have about hoplite warefare...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CB53N46L

Everyone enjoy....

Hmmm admin....i think this should be different topic...please move this to other topic named : GREAT BATTLES OF ANCIENT WORLD with working tittle " audio lectures" where I will post them....
Sry......

**Gaio Giulio Patrizio** · August 05, 2008, 05:26 AM

some new screeens.Forget the peasant units.We are reskinning a lot of things

**Blue_Hoplite85** · August 05, 2008, 06:58 AM

put on some greek screenshots

**Gaio Giulio Patrizio** · August 05, 2008, 07:01 AM

the greek faction is under reskin.I can show you only yellow dressed peasant right now XD but maybe also something else..Wait and hope XD

**Darius_D** · August 05, 2008, 06:28 PM

mountain area in the background is I think the best of any mod out there. truly great.

The strategic map is also briliant.
But in the vanilla (and many mods with 2 turns per year) on average 50% of battles in central Europe will be fought in snow, which is quite unrealistic, and also because Europe is not Siberia and snow covers ground only occasionally throughout the winter.

My solution to avoid frequent snoz battles was to modify script designed for 4 turns per year back to 2 turn per year, but every second winter in the script I replaced by autumn. As a result, the strat map looked like summer but the icon was showing this is winter season.

What is a chance to avoid frequent snow battles in this ambitious mod?

**Gaio Giulio Patrizio** · August 06, 2008, 03:50 AM

the same you mentioned.Our mod has a dinamic year passing script.Some years will pass faster(2 turns a year) and some slower(4 turns a year) so it's the same

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