PRO DEO ET REGE Faction Research Thread: Basileia tōn Rōmaiōn

[Tadzreuli]

My word! What a fascinating little site! Cheerio!

thanks you, great site !

[Tadzreuli]

here is the another good site :

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museum...CategoryID=121

[Emperor Basil]

Ok then. Here's some more for anyone who's interested.


The 4th Crusade


Meeting between Alexius V (on the horse) and the Doge Errico Dandolo in 1204.




Constantine XI - 1453


Constantinople


Constantinople again


Hagia Sophia


The Hippodrome


Random Horseman

[Socal_infidel]

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[VanguardXIII]

My word! What a fascinating little site! Cheerio!

But the Friesians are Kantians who, despite claims to the contrary, have one for Nietzsche!

Some of the ideological stuff was a bit over-presented, or shall I say 'laid out as a rant'.

[Socal_infidel]

Allah willing, I hope to be able to post some pics of the Pronoiarioi, Scholarioi and Varangians sometime soon...spent the better part of the past two weeks on them.

[DWG]

I'm really thinking the Pronoiarioi should be restricted by an era-requirement (mid-13th century?).

Era works, but one thought I considered a while ago was to have Pronoiarioi availability linked to agricultural improvements as well as military, as historically the Pronoiarioi are a spin-off of the Pronoia land grant system. It would be a double-edged sword in that the Pronoiarioi would be lower cost (paid for by their share of the taxation they collect), but the yield of the land would be lower (same reason).

I'm leaning towards not including the menalavtoi spear/pike guy. Because as you mention, I don't really want them to have super-heavy Roman infantry and a heavy spearmen unit might be overkill, indeed.

As the Menavlatoi seem to have been small fractions of larger units (10% of a 1000 man Chiliarchy), you could have them as a small (20-30) man formation that doesn't make sense for en-masse use, but is available for 'colour'. And you can still use them in historical fashion by deploying them across the frontage of lesser infantry types about to receive cavalry. Total War has problems replicating the mixed Byzantine units, but you can get some of the effect if you are willing to sacrifice absolute combat power (and unit slots).

[Socal_infidel]

Pronoiarioi Lancers

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Pronoiarioi Lancers Upgrade

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Thanks goes to LACa for the harness and helmet.

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[Socal_infidel]

Scholarioi Heavy Lancers

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[B. Ward]

very nice my friend

[AnthoniusII]

exelent!!!!

[hekk]

Very beautiful work Socal!

Can't wait for the final execution of the vanilla Byzantines!

[Socal_infidel]

Varangian Guard:

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Thanks to Prof420 for the nasal helm model and texture.

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[AnthoniusII]

They are...vikings!At last...add some kite shields to present the saxons in the verangian guard too!
And the offer exxists...I hope you will think obout it!

[hekk]

Varangian Guard:

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Thanks to Prof420 for the nasal helm model and texture.

A few things I should point out tho
-No boots for the feet? Imagine walking with all that chainmail around your feet, would have been really uncomfortable.
-The last axe doesn't look Norse or Anglo-Saxon, perhaps you could replace it with the effective bearded axe?

Otherwise, nice work!

[Socal_infidel]

A few things I should point out tho
-No boots for the feet? Imagine walking with all that chainmail around your feet, would have been really uncomfortable.
-The last axe doesn't look Norse or Anglo-Saxon, perhaps you could replace it with the effective bearded axe?

Otherwise, nice work!

Yeah, the model's actually not quite done yet. I know about the boots, and he still needs a shield on his back. And good point about the axe.

All the pics are more to show that I'm actually hard at work on 2.0, not just loafing around playing EB 1.0....

[hekk]

All the pics are more to show that I'm actually hard at work on 2.0, not just loafing around playing EB 1.0....

Hehe, pics are better than no pics.

The Romans are looking like their getting are really unique roster, gonna be awesome to try these out.

[suntaiguy23]

wow these units are quote nice and u have a similar style to strelac, which is a big plus, ill finally get to conquor the west with true romans

[Ahiga]

Wow, very awesome Varangians.

[Socal_infidel]

wow these units are quote nice and u have a similar style to strelac, which is a big plus, ill finally get to conquor the west with true romans

Thanks for mentioning me in the same breath with such lofty company. Honestly, I just try to do the best I can with my limited (read, crappy) unit-making "skills"...

I've said it before...prior to September I had never even done anything with MS Paint let alone PS CS3...

Wow, very awesome Varangians.

Thanks! I wanted them to look a little savage and rough around the edges while still maintaining a certain nobility unlike vanilla's...