In Nomine

[Spart]

EU III EXPANSION "IN NOMINE" REVEALED
While the developers are busy putting their finishing touches on EU: Rome, the team is already thinking ahead and we are thrilled to announce the next expansion for EU III - "In Nomine" (requires Napoleon's Ambition). This is what Producer Johan Andersson had to say about the expansion:

* Start in October 1399, at the coronation of Henry IV of England. Experience over 50 more years of gameplay, experiencing the Byzantine Empire, Tamerlane and the end of the Hundred Years War.

* Se exactly what is required to make the decisions that will shape the future of your country. Strive to create Great Britain, Make Paris worth a Mass, or institute an East Indian Trade Company. Act, rather than react, and implement decisions on both country and province level, with the new decision system, including hundreds of different decisions depending on situation.

* Experience our new Mission System, where the player and AI will both be given goals to achieve, providing endless replayability by guiding history along different tracks every time.

* In Nomine will feature Rebels with a Cause. There are countless types of rebels, with different goals, and different abilities. You may get colonial rebels in your colonies determined to get representation or independence, you may get reactionary nobles rising up to put the serfs back where the belong. Crush them by force, or negotiate with them, or even worse, watch them enforce their demands on your country.

* Religious tolerance now depends on the ideas and decisions you take, making it a new layer of strategy. As cardinals stay loyal longer, the power of the Papa Controller has grown, as he can now excommunicate rulers, and call crusades against infidels.

Revised AI, focusing on strategic top level goals, with support for fully scriptable logics.
"In Nomine" is scheduled for release before the summer. Head over to our forums if you want to discuss this game.

Yay! I wasn't even bored with NA yet and the new expansion is under way this spring. What do you think?
The extra 50 years is nice and all but I'm personally looking forward to those other new features and improvements. Improved AI and rebels.. *drool*

[Edelward]

Great
Hope they get both exp-s working together, type:
1399-1821

P.S.
*the power of the Papa Controller has grown, as he can now excommunicate rulers, and call crusades against infidels*.seems to be a bit late for that stuff.
They'd better worked out the system of Reform with some procent of provinces following your state's convertion -for Protestantism implemented in a very strange way into the game

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Yay, I can start playing with Iraq 54 years earlier. Excellent.

I like the idea of another expansion though.

[Spart]

Great
Hope they get both exp-s working together, type:
1399-1821

Yeah, that's how it works. The campaigns will be epic.

[Banzai!]

EDIT: Lol I thought "In Nomine" was the Rome game.

No wonder people were getting off on me....

[The White Knight]

Banzai, the topic is the expansion for EU3 "In Nomine". You also might find that people are more inclined to take you serious when you refrain from posting with caps-lock on.

The only feature I'm not particularly interested in are the missions. I feel it would detract from the "Grand-Strategy" type of feeling you get when you set your own goals. I'm sure they'll be optional though. The rest sounds pretty cool.

[Edelward]

P.S. To White Knights -I really like missions
...though it could be a rip off from other strategies,oh dear !

[Atterdag]

When I hear the word "missions" I think of those horrible things in MTW II.

But I love the rebels feature!

[Valentin the II]

When I hear the word "missions" I think of those horrible things in MTW II.

But I love the rebels feature!

I remember the "goals" from the first Medieval, those were the dayes.

[Edelward]

'the player and AI will both be given goals to achieve'
I really can not play without goal to achieve
Get more provinces or get some distant province or
score more points-gives some sense of competition ,challenge
Otherwise after 1700 I fall asleep

[Aketi]

Very nice, I can't wait. Even longer campaigns, excellent. Hopefully it won't take too long until we see a Magna Mundi version for this expansion.

* Se exactly what is required to make the decisions that will shape the future of your country. Strive to create Great Britain, Make Paris worth a Mass, or institute an East Indian Trade Company. Act, rather than react, and implement decisions on both country and province level, with the new decision system, including hundreds of different decisions depending on situation.

I don't get this. Does this mean some sort of visible in-game event modifiers? :hmmm:

* Experience our new Mission System, where the player and AI will both be given goals to achieve, providing endless replayability by guiding history along different tracks every time.

Sounds like the EU 2 mission system is back. If so, this would be a unnecessary and worthless feature. Most of the time, the EU 2 missions were unrelated and illogical to the current situation of your empire. I hope this can be turned off.:hmmm:

* In Nomine will feature Rebels with a Cause. There are countless types of rebels, with different goals, and different abilities. You may get colonial rebels in your colonies determined to get representation or independence, you may get reactionary nobles rising up to put the serfs back where the belong. Crush them by force, or negotiate with them, or even worse, watch them enforce their demands on your country.

Stolen from Magna Mundi, eh? :hmmm:

Revised AI, focusing on strategic top level goals, with support for fully script able logics.

EU 2's individual script able AI is back.

[Valentin the II]

For anyone that doesnt know what this means:
* Se exactly what is required to make the decisions that will shape the future of your country. Strive to create Great Britain, Make Paris worth a Mass, or institute an East Indian Trade Company. Act, rather than react, and implement decisions on both country and province level, with the new decision system, including hundreds of different decisions depending on situation.


The idea was posted on the paradox forums some time ago: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=336829
Sounds awesome!

Stolen from Magna Mundi, eh? :hmmm:

Magna mndi does not have rebels with a cawse.
This is a totaly new feature.

[Aketi]

The idea was posted on the paradox forums some time ago: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=336829
Sounds awesome!

Thank you for the helpful link. So did Paradox admit yet that they picked up the idea from the original proposer? He deserves to get some credit.

Magna mndi does not have rebels with a cawse.
This is a totaly new feature.

It is a new feature to vanilla, but as an experienced MM player I immediately felt reminded of MM game play.

* In Nomine will feature Rebels with a Cause. There are countless types of rebels, with different goals, and different abilities. You may get colonial rebels in your colonies determined to get representation or independence, you may get reactionary nobles rising up to put the serfs back where the belong. Crush them by force, or negotiate with them, or even worse, watch them enforce their demands on your country.

In extensive MM campaigns, you'll pretty much go through all of this stuff through events and set_country_flags. Like for example the different civil wars or the noble and peasant uprisings (the latter for example is triggered by extreme serfdom etc.), and much more. You really can crush them by force, or negotiate with them, or watch them enforce their demands on your country. You'll find lots of this stuff in the civil- and total war event pools. Sure we're not able to judge the whole implementation and complexity of the system by now, since we only have this one paragraph of vague information, but the general ideas and a brilliant implementation can be found in MM.

I'm just wondering if Paradox was inspired by the mod, and there's absolutely nothing wrong if that happened. It is implausible that they came up with this on their own, MM always was the biggest and most popular mod on the plaza, and about half of the community plays it. It would be weird if Paradox never took an extensive look at it. If I am correct, Paradox should be honest enough to give the proper credit to the modders.

[Fabolous]

I'm just wondering if Paradox was inspired by the mod, and there's absolutely nothing wrong if that happened. It is implausible that they came up with this on their own, MM always was the biggest and most popular mod on the plaza, and about half of the community plays it. It would be weird if Paradox never took an extensive look at it. If I am correct, Paradox should be honest enough to give the proper credit to the modders.

It wouldn't be at all suprising. Paradox has learned and practically stolen from mods before, especially some of the AI work done for HOI2. Paradox has always been community focused, and they pay attention to mods and modders. I'm sure Paradox is more than aware of what makes MM so popular and would probably try to follow that in any way they can that makes sense for them. The increased role of rebels, the increased role of papal controller, excommunication, etc. Alot of the early advertised features are reminiscent of MM.

[Valentin the II]

In extensive MM campaigns, you'll pretty much go through all of this stuff through events and set_country_flags. Like for example the different civil wars or the noble and peasant uprisings (the latter for example is triggered by extreme serfdom etc.), and much more. You really can crush them by force, or negotiate with them, or watch them enforce their demands on your country. You'll find lots of this stuff in the civil- and total war event pools. Sure we're not able to judge the whole implementation and complexity of the system by now, since we only have this one paragraph of vague information, but the general ideas and a brilliant implementation can be found in MM.

I'm just wondering if Paradox was inspired by the mod, and there's absolutely nothing wrong if that happened. It is implausible that they came up with this on their own, MM always was the biggest and most popular mod on the plaza, and about half of the community plays it. It would be weird if Paradox never took an extensive look at it. If I am correct, Paradox should be honest enough to give the proper credit to the modders.

There might be different cawses for rebelions in Magna Mundi, but when they get out there all rebels act the same.
I think what this feature means, is that eatch tipe of rebels will get a slightly different AI, so that nationalists will go for provinces with certain cores, fanatics will atack provinces based on religion, etc......
IMHO its a totally fresh idea that wasn't implemented anywhere (yet).

[Aketi]

It wouldn't be at all suprising. Paradox has learned and practically stolen from mods before, especially some of the AI work done for HOI2. Paradox has always been community focused, and they pay attention to mods and modders. I'm sure Paradox is more than aware of what makes MM so popular and would probably try to follow that in any way they can that makes sense for them. The increased role of rebels, the increased role of papal controller, excommunication, etc. Alot of the early advertised features are reminiscent of MM.

My thoughts exactly! Another example that comes to my mind is how Deus Vult pretty much included the exact content of all the improvement mods.

There might be different cawses for rebelions in Magna Mundi, but when they get out there all rebels act the same.
I think what this feature means, is that eatch tipe of rebels will get a slightly different AI, so that nationalists will go for provinces with certain cores, fanatics will atack provinces based on religion, etc......

Unless there is some more detailed and explicit information on this feature that I'm not aware of, judging from the one paragraph of vague information, I'd have to say that this is nothing but speculation.

In MM, this actually kind of happens; the matter that rebel armies sometimes do not move to their next logical destinations is simply tricked by spawning rebel armies in all the regions that are affected by the specific reason of the revolt. For example if you are going through a peasant war, every affected province gets one of those neat modifier flags on the left of the province window. Like this one time in my MM Sweden campaign, about 20 of my 30 core provinces got these modifiers and spawned rebels, great fun.

IMHO its a totally fresh idea that wasn't implemented anywhere (yet).

I strongly disagree. I think the general ideas can be found in MM.

The difference in terms of implementation is that Paradox will definitely put the new basic game mechanics in the hardcoded core of the engine (except for modifiers etc. of course). Modders don't have the possibilities to program individual rebel AI, but they more or less successfully tried to simulate them.

[scottishranger]

The only thing is that I wish you did not have to buy NA to buy this.

Oh well, finally an excuse to buy NA

[Spart]

Another sneakpeak is here:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=350496


Seems reasonable.

[tco]

Another sneakpeak is here:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=350496


Seems reasonable.

I wonder what spheres of influence are. :hmmm:

[John I Tzimisces]

I wonder what spheres of influence are. :hmmm:

Probably works similarly to trade centers, except dependent upon stability and badboy, extending influence over another country will make diplomatic relations better etc etc etc

All speculation on my part.