War on too many fronts?

[So Much Fire]

I'm currently playing as the Mamluks (also have a save game that I haven't really played as Hedjaz) and I started out at war with Trebinzor and Georgia (have conquered and annexed both). I was just minding my own business while looking over the campaign map, I saw Poland move in and grab Sunni provinces in a land grab over in my direction (I have Hedjaz, future Iraq, Hedjaz and Ottomans as neighbors) so I created a couple armies, secured military access and marched on over to declare war on Poland. When I did, Poland, Lithuania, Austria, Ottomans, Wallchalia (sp?) all declared war on me. I also lost favor with Hedjaz (who I've proclaimed a guarantee on to protect Mecca and Medina) and the future Iraqis.

Is there a way to declare war and take on the grand alliance without losing favor with everyone? (or if I'm so sworn to protecting and can't bring myself to attack Mecca and Medina should I just be Hedjaz?)

[hellheaven1987]

Can you post a picture?? It seems that your immediately concern is Ottoman only. May be you can conquer Asia Minor first then shift to defence.

[Town Watch]

well, atleast you'll be getting that military tradition you know, to be able to hire the best generals

[So Much Fire]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

There's my kingdom atm, I loaded my last auto-save (before the war with Dulkadir and Ottomans) so right now I'm fighting (and struggling) to get a foothold in Europe against Poland. I've still got military access rights with the Ottomans, but as you can see, I've got 2 provinces which are left out to dry and isolated.

[hellheaven1987]

Just forget Poland, focus your force on other neighbours since Poland would not even threaten you immediately.

[Otherside]

malmuks tend to be to poor and to weak to contend with Christian powers even Poland you need to take Arabia and Algeria then go for ottomans before going for mainland Europe.

[So Much Fire]

ok, any way to get Mecca and Medina w/o actually attacking? Can i take Jeddah and Hedjaz's other province and force vassillation?

[King Edward III]

Play as the Ottomans instead, they're a lot cooler.

[Cúchulainn]

At the moment what you need to do is ignore Europe all together.

Instead focus on Saudi Arabia and the Horn of Africa.

Have a "Quest for the New World" as an NI then march against the africans.

Reasons for it.

Well
1. They are technologically inferior to you.

2. It's nice and out of the way.
Which means you can conquer it without your allies taking territory that you want.

3. Money. Ivory is everywhere.

4. The extra manpower can really help in an war.

5. Most regions are Sunni, which helps prevent rebels and allows you to rake in that ivory money much more effectively.

Keep in mind that the Mamluks are a tribal faction, so will never be able to compete with the other factions in the late game.
So do you best to conquer now, before it's too late.

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A good faction to try is the Timurids as they are all about conquest.
Even though they are a tribal faction, they can form the Mughal Empire and become a Monarchy, which takes away the tribal tech penalty.

Which is nice.

[So Much Fire]

ok, I'll march on Africa then, and supposing I could somehow switch governments to a republic or a non-tribal form of gov't, will that also take away the tribal tech penalty?

[Cúchulainn]

It will.

But the Mamluks can't change from a tribal government.


At least, I don't think so?

[So Much Fire]

ok thanks, I'll check it out, if I can't change, just hoping there's another eastern non-Bedouin faction to use

[Lawrence of Arabia]

You need an extremely rare event to fire to go from Tribalism to a Despotic Monarchy.

[So Much Fire]

You need an extremely rare event to fire to go from Tribalism to a Despotic Monarchy.

Any suggestions then before I get to involved then? Maybe another faction? I'm really in awe at your Iraq campaign but it looks like you need NA and DV to be Iraq.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Any suggestions then before I get to involved then? Maybe another faction? I'm really in awe at your Iraq campaign but it looks like you need NA and DV to be Iraq.

You can mod Iraq into your own game if you'd like. You can download factions at the Paradox forums.

In your present game, I'd try and attack Qara Koyunulu if you have DV. That will give you a large amount of territory. Don't be afraid to hire a lot of mercs and raise minting.

Is Qara Koyunulu a tribalist faction? If not, you can do very well with DV with them, they are also Shiite. It's a blessing when your stability doesn't go down once in 200+ years.

Heck, you might be able to do well with them even if they are stuck in the tribalism government group. If you take out the Arab states in the peninsula, and ally with either the Timurids or Mamlukes, you should do fine.

If you want to play as a Sunni faction, you could try Morocco.

If it doesn't matter to you, you could start as Japan and use DV and QftNW as your first two NI's.

[So Much Fire]

Cool thanks! I'm reading over the modding tutorial for nations right now.

[jankren]

23000 manpower and 67000 ducats in the late 15th century? CHEATER YOUR PANTS ARE ON FIRE! LOL

[So Much Fire]

23000 manpower and 67000 ducats in the late 15th century? CHEATER YOUR PANTS ARE ON FIRE! LOL

LOL! wanted a quick game!!