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    Default The Ayyubids,Fatimids...

    Seeking reallism, and also since our start date is 1095, would it be more accurate if "egypt" become The Ayyubids , The Fatamids...?

    Suggestions and info (including flags,or another info are welcome)

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    Default Re: The Ayyubids...

    The Ayyubids for Egypt? They came into being in the latter half of the twelfth century. Maybe it was a typo for the starting date?

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    الخلافة الاسلامية الفاطمية
    Fatimid Islamic Caliphate

    909 to 1171 AD !?

    Putting the question different, wich the the more accurate name for egypt on this time-frame ?
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    I believe they should be called al-Fātimiyyūn.
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    Icon7 Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    I am not a great fan of this site..But on this map,both names are used :
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...anean_1097.jpg

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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    no let it be mamluks cause fatimids dissapeared quickly




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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    fattimid dinasty was destroyed in early 12 century i think correct me if im wrong

    i know that saladin destroyed them so perhaps youll figure out better than me




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    Icon7 Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    Well,Fatimid and Ayyubid are names of dynasties..The other ones began to reign in 1171. I really have no idea..Maybe we should discuss between Egypt and Mameluks???
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    well all this dynasties are on our mod time-frame, one at start, another lil after and the another at the middle of our time-frame..... so wich name,wich flag,wich colours !?
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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    Fatimids and Ayyubids were dynasties, not peoples. Call it Egypt. Concidering that the fatimids lost power to the ayyubids in the 1170's it would be silly having a Fatimid Caliphate in when the game has reached that point. If the faction is called Egypt, that would cause no dilemma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Yngvar View Post
    Fatimids and Ayyubids were dynasties, not peoples. Call it Egypt. Concidering that the fatimids lost power to the ayyubids in the 1170's it would be silly having a Fatimid Caliphate in when the game has reached that point. If the faction is called Egypt, that would cause no dilemma.
    I don't think it would be silly because an event can be set in 1170. to change the name to Ayyubids. One of the marvelous functions of Kingdoms.
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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    I think that would require two faction slots just for Egypt.

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    No, it wouldn't. That's a good idea Salah al-Din. Perhaps events for dynasty changes could be implement for all factions.
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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    im still for mamluks




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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    much more than giving country a dinasty name , or simply leave it egypt




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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    No, it wouldn't.
    Are you absolutely certain? Because if it does not cost extra faction slots, then great, I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy spong View Post
    much more than giving country a dinasty name , or simply leave it egypt
    Quote Originally Posted by King Yngvar View Post
    Are you absolutely certain? Because if it does not cost extra faction slots, then great, I'm all for it.
    well we've the kalmar union in teutonic campaign,and yes this cost 1 slot :hmmm:
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    To just change the name of a faction mid-game doesn't use a new faction slot does it?
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    Default Re: The Ayyubids,Fatamids...

    Historicaly Saladin Sestroy the Fatimids who were Shia muslems and he rules egypt since Fatimids sultanat fall for more info Saladin was a war chief for the Syrian (AL Sham) part within the abbasid armies and when he defeat the Fatimids become as sultan on Egypt and his familly called as (Al Ayubyyn) or The Aybians.


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