Norway are fully functional within the mod. They have their entire Kingdoms Roster including Gotland Footmen, and Sami Axemen, plus access to all NE artillery.
They will also use the hakon king battle model for their faction leader
Father of Thera
Faction Thread - Norway
Norway are fully functional within the mod. They have their entire Kingdoms Roster including Gotland Footmen, and Sami Axemen, plus access to all NE artillery.
They will also use the hakon king battle model for their faction leader
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Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
since we start in 1095, the norwegian king is Haakon Magnusson and heir Magnus Barefoot !!
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Father of Thera
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
I suggest we have it scripted so that Faction leader always uses the hakon battle model, so the faction leader is always obvious in in battleOriginally Posted by Ataegina
( I'd do the same for england with the king edward battle model)
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Re: Faction Thread - Norway
yes, this don't mess with the model, just the name(s) of the characterI suggest we have it scripted so that Faction leader always uses the hakon battle model, so the faction leader is always obvious in in battle
( I'd do the same for england with the king edward battle model)
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Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Ehm... the king of Norway at the time was Magnus Barefoot(and his official name was Magnus Olavsson) and his heir was Olav Magnusson.
Haakon Haakonsson was born over 100 years after this period. :hmmm:
Good luck with the mod tho.
Last edited by hekk; January 31, 2008 at 08:32 AM.
Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Håkon Magnusson : 1093-1094Ehm... the king of Norway at the time was Magnus Barefoot(and his official name was Magnus Olavsson) and his heir was Olav Magnusson.
Haakon Haakonsson was born over 100 years after this period. :hmmm:
Good luck with the mod tho.
Magnus Barefoot Magnus Berføtt: 1093-1103
Olaf Magnusson[1] : 1103-1115
Øystein Magnusson : 1103-1123
Sigurd the Crusader Sigurd Jorsalfar: 1103-1130
Magnus the Blind Magnus Blinde: 1130-1135
Harald Gille : 1130-1136
- Sigurd Slembe : 1135-1139, rival king
Sigurd Mouth Sigurd Munn: 1136-1155
Øystein Haraldsson : 1142(/1136)-1157
Inge Hunchback Inge Krokrygg: 1136-1161
Haakon the Broadshouldered Håkon Herdebrei : 1157-1162
Magnus Erlingsson : 1161-1184
- Sigurd Markusfostre : 1162-1163, rival king
- Eystein Meyla : 1174-1177, rival king
Sverre Sigurdsson : 1177-1202
- Jon Kuvlung : 1185-1188, rival king
- Sigurd Magnusson : 1193-1194, rival king
- Inge Magnusson : 1196-1202, rival king
Håkon Sverreson : 1202-1204
Guttorm Sigurdsson : 1204
- Haakon the Crazy Håkon Galen, earl and steward 1204
Inge Bårdsson : 1204-1217
- Erling Stone-wall Erling Steinvegg: 1204-1207, rival king
- Filippus Simonsson : 1207-1217, rival king
Håkon IV Håkonsson : 1217-1263
- Skule Bårdsson : 1239-1240, rival king
Magnus the law-mender Magnus Lagabøte: 1263-1280
Eirik Magnusson : 1280-1299
Håkon V Magnusson : 1299-1319
The Union of Sweden and Norway (1319-1343/63)
- Magnus Eriksson : 1319-1343
- Håkon VI Magnusson : 1343-1380
The Union of Denmark and Norway (1380-1396)
- Olav IV Håkonsson[1] : 1380-1387
The Kalmar Union (1397-1536)
- Denmark, Norway and Sweden (1397-1523):
- Margaret I (Margrete I) : 1387-1389
- Eric III (known often as Eric of Pomerania): 1389-1442
- Christopher of Bavaria : 1442-1448
- Carl I of Norway (Karl Knutsson Bonde) : 1449-1450 - union with Sweden
- Christian I : 1450-1481
- Hans : 1481-1513
- Christian II : 1513-1523
Denmark-Norway (1523-1814)
- Frederick I : 1523-1533
- Christian III : 1534-1559
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Tiro
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
So Hakon dies a year before our start date?
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Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
on this way yes
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Tiro
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Yeah, there is some misunderstanding there. Hekk thought you said Hakon Hakonsson (ruled. 1217)...
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Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Yes indeed
Since norway was used in kingdoms, some people dont change the names, but we did it, and track the real king and heir of this time
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Aha, apologies wasn't reading properly but still.
But both Haakon Magnusson and Magnus Barefoot were both kings (Haakon was claimed as king in Nidaros while Magnus was claimed in Viken), but Haakon Magnusson died very early in his reign, it is possible that he was secretly assassinated, like many Norwegian kings.
But Magnus was the sole king of Norway in 1095, with Olav Magnusson, Øystein Magnusson and Sigurd Jorsalfarer as not official heirs but future rulers. However, Sigurd was the one who would eventually become sole king of Norway, and perhaps more significant than the others.
Last edited by hekk; January 31, 2008 at 12:58 PM.
Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
thats true, because exist different list of kings...even the "claiming list"
made by internal strungles for power,so assassination was something very common
wich one deserves the title !? since both as claimed kings, in different places..
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Re: Faction Thread - Norway
You should make Magnus Olavsson (22 years old, probably need to make him about ten years older) king, with Sigurd Jorsalafarer (5 years old, which is unforunate because it won't work in m2tw, so you'd probably need to make him 16) as his heir.thats true, because exist different list of kings...even the "claiming list"
made by internal strungles for power,so assassination was something very common
wich one deserves the title !? since both as claimed kings, in different places..
I can also get the Norse names if you need them.
Nature's Ninja
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
would be greatYou should make Magnus Olavsson (22 years old, probably need to make him about ten years older) king, with Sigurd Jorsalafarer (5 years old, which is unforunate because it won't work in m2tw, so you'd probably need to make him 16) as his heir.
I can also get the Norse names if you need them.
yes unhappy m2tw don't allow that,wich is a shame, because if we can we would make that happen in our mod
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Senator
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
I propose having Magnus Barefoot as the king (concidering he was the king at the time) with three sons (none which have come of age, Øystein being the oldest, Sigurd in the middle and Olav the youngest). Magnus was 22 at the time so let him stay 22, Norway could have a general (not family member) in one of the cities that would take over in case of emergency.since we start in 1095, the norwegian king is Haakon Magnusson and heir Magnus Barefoot !!
The "Gotland Footmen" should perhaps change name to something like "hirdmenn" perhaps they could be more of a "general's bodyguard" unit for Norway concidering the kings usually fought on foot.
The "Sami Axemen" unit is totally unhistorical, they could just be replaced with the "Norse Axemen" of Denmark
When I am on the subject of units, take a look here at what these guys have done for the Danish units (they are planning an update which includes Norwegian units as well):
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...hp?t=136437and
Just have to say those skins are much more unique and Scandinavian looking, should really be taken into concideration.
And for character names, which at this point is quite ahistorical, why not include the "character names project"?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=327
Another matter is the coat of arms, instead of using the historically incorrect red and blue, why not go with this?
And last, but not least, provinces. I suggest one province somewhere in the British isles for Norway, be it Man or Orkney, so that the focus of AI Norway is often directed in fighting Scotland or Ireland.
Father of Thera
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Well thats actually good news, I have made norse axemen avaiable to Norway (they arent in Knigdoms) using a Norway skin. SO if we max out the EDU we cant remove them.
thanks for the info
Jason
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Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Norway Symbol Updated
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Senator
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
Wonderfull news indeed
You need any more historical info about Norway, just ask.
Campidoctor
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
r you gonna givve norway a province in britain ? it would be good so they could attack them as it would be historicaly natural or just put an army in england and make them be in war with them , stamford birdge , it would be nice
Father of Thera
Re: Faction Thread - Norway
A number of options,r you gonna givve norway a province in britain ? it would be good so they could attack them as it would be historicaly natural or just put an army in england and make them be in war with them , stamford birdge , it would be nice
give win conditions which mean norway has to hold say York to win
place a norway spy on the english mainland, so Norway has visability of England
If Norway is AI controlled, script a Norway army to spawn in england
All of these will help direct an AI Norway to attack England
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