TFT 58bc to 50bc info

[narren2002]

hi all,

i would like to say that this game is great(mod)!!
i have been playing it in 2 ways , my way and history way..i have spent the last 2 weeks playing it in a historic way as much as i can.. i have written some info time lines that could be useful if any one would care to try..i will add it here.

The Gallic Campaigns

TRN 1
58BC SPRING: CAESAR ONLY HAS 4 FULL LEGIO'S. 3 ARE IN GALLIA CASALPINA (NORTH OF ROME) AND ONE IN NARBONENSIS (WEST OF GALLIA CASALPINA).
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE MAIN THREE LEGIO'S IN GALLIA CASALPINA TO DEAL WITH THE HELVETII TO THE NORTH.PLUS YOU HAVE TO MAKE 3 MORE LEGIO'S
TO MAKE THE 6 LEGIOS THAT CAESAR USED TO BATTLE THE HELVETII. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio VIII Augusta
Legio IX Hispana
Legio X Gemina "CAESAR'S BODY GAURD LEGIO"
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio XII Fulminata
TRN 2
58BC SUMMER: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 3
58BC FALL :BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 4
58BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND
TRN 5
57BC SPRING: YOU HAVE TO HAVE CAESAR LEAVE HIS MAIN LEGIO AND HEAD HIM TO GALLIA CASALPINA TO MAKE 2 MORE LEGIOS TO INFORCE HIS ARMY
TO 8 LEGIOS.
Legio XIII Gemina "Quintus Titurius Sabinus COMANDER"
Legio XIV Gemina
TRN 6
57BC SUMMER: TAKE CAESAR AND HIS 2 NEW LEGIOS TO JOIN HIS ALREADY 6 LEGIOS AND HEAD FOR ADUATICA (STONE WALLED CITY)AND TAKE IT. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio VIII Augusta
Legio IX Hispana
Legio X Gemina "CAESAR'S BODY GAURD LEGIO"
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio XII Fulminata
Legio XIII Gemina "Quintus Titurius Sabinus COMANDER"
Legio XIV Gemina
TRN 7
57BC FALL: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 8
57BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND
TRN 9
56BC SPRING: TAKE Legio XIV Gemina, Legio XIII Gemina, Legio XII Fulminata, Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis, Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis TO BALGAE (SAMAROBRIVA & ADUATICA). BUY TAKING SAMAROBRIVA YOU WILL HAVE A PORT TO MAKE SHIPS TO DO A EXPEDITION INTO BRITIAN.( MAKE 5 FLEETS THERE.)
TRN 10
56BC SUMMER: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 11
56BC FALL: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 12
56BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND
TRN 13
55BC SPRING: TAKE CAESAR AND (Legio X Gemina , Legio VIII Augusta , Legio IX Hispana) TO THE RHINE.HAVE Legio X Gemina CROSS INTO GERMANIC (A PUNITIVE EXPEDITION).FOR 1 FULL TRN. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 14
55BC SUMMER: BRING CAESAR AND Legio X Gemina , Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis TO THE SAMAROBRIVA PORT, BY WHICH TIME YOU SHOULD HAVE 2 FLEETS MADE TO TAKE THE 2 LEGIOS ACROSS TO BRITIAN. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 15
55BC FALL: BRING CAESAR AND HIS 2 LEGIO'S BACK TO BALGAE TO DEAL WITH ANY GAUL UPRISEINGS. MOVE Legio XIV Gemina & Legio XIII Gemina TO TREVERUM TO TAKE THE STONE WALLED CITY. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 16
55BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND
TRN 17
54BC SPRING: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE) TAKE 4 LEGIONS TO THE CITY OF ADUATICA, TAKE CITY.
TRN 18
54BC SUMMER: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)TAKE 5 LEGIONS TO BRITIAN, LEAVE 3 LEGIONS IN GAUL.(YOU WILL NEED 5 SHIPS) only take LONDINIUM if you can.
TRN 19
54BC FALL: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE) MOVE CAESAR AND THE Legio X Gemina HALF WAY BETWEEN BELGAE AND TREVERUM AND MAKE CAMP.
TRN 20
54BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND. (IN REGAURDLESS Legio XIV Gemina IS TO BE DELETED. ) { when the Eburones of north-eastern Gaul rose in rebellion under their leader Ambiorix and destroyed the Fourteenth legion[Legio XIV Gemina] under the command of Quintus Titurius Sabinus in a carefully planned ambush. } {Fifteen Roman cohorts were wiped out at Atuatuca Tungrorum (modern Tongeren in Belgium) and a garrison commanded by Quintus Tullius Cicero narrowly survived after being relieved by Caesar in the nick of time.}
TRN 21
53BC SPRING: BATTLE/MOVE , revolt in Gaul, and other revolts force Caesar to abandon Britain. RECRUT Legio XV Apollinaris TO JOIN THE BATTLE AGAINST THE GAULS. (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 22
53BC SUMMER: BATTLE/MOVE, Vercingetorix revolts in Gaul, SO BY THIS TIME YOU SHOULD HAVE 8 LEGIO'S TO BATTLE IN GAUL [ONLY]
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio VIII Augusta
Legio IX Hispana
Legio X Gemina "CAESAR'S BODY GAURD LEGIO"
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio XII Fulminata
Legio XIII Gemina "Quintus Titurius Sabinus COMANDER"
Legio XV Apollinaris
TRN 23
53BC FALL: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE)
TRN 24
53BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND
TRN 25
52BC SPRING: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE). RECRUT 2 MORE LEGIONS AND SEND THEM TO GAUL
Legio V Alaudae
Legio VI Ferrata
TRN 26
52BC SUMMER: BATTLE/MOVE , ADVANCE ALL YOUR LEGIO'S TO ALSIA TO LAY SEIGE. FINAL BATTLE WITH Vercingetorix (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE). .[ now some where in history caesar had 12 legions at alsia to battle vercingetarix, but i can't find the other 2 legions named. at my count there are only 10, not including the 14th(it was wiped out and i havent fond any info as it being at alsia. it is Reconstituted by Octavian in 41 BC. ]
Julius Caesar,
Titus Labienus,
Mark Antony,
Quintus Cicero,
Publius Crassus
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio VIII Augusta
Legio IX Hispana
Legio X Gemina "CAESAR'S BODY GAURD LEGIO"
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio XII Fulminata
Legio XIII Gemina "Quintus Titurius Sabinus COMANDER"
Legio XV Apollinaris
Legio V Alaudae
Legio VI Ferrata
TRN 27
52BC FALL: BATTLE/MOVE , FINAL BATTLE WITH Vercingetorix (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE).
TRN 28
52BC WINTER: WINTER CAMP/DEFEND.
TRN 29
51BC SPRING: BATTLE/MOVE (GET AS MANY MERC'S AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU ARE THERE) [ mopping-up actions ].

i hope you have as much fun as i have had with it..to tell you all the truth.. some of the movements in the TFT game and in the time line may not work.
so try it as best as you can.

my self i find that the roman army's movement points are too short, oh yah gen's can go far but the main army can not...

i hope you all like this as much as i am.



ooops forgot to say "i play this on vh/m

[greenypeace]

Hi Narren2002)

It is a very good work You are the real roman general )))

[DaVinci]

I only have to complain about the title: Know, it is not TFT.

[Octavius Vatco]

Im confused?? which mod is he playing? 58bc or TFT???

[Salvor Hardin]

I think that TFT. But I am not really sure either...

[misplacedgeneral]

It has to be 58 BC. TFT does not allow for Named Legions nor Caesar in 58 BC.

[greenypeace]

Certainly it is 58BC

[Octavius Vatco]

But the legions of 58 bc are not named like that.. nor it was in history..yet...

And I havent bump in on sabinus in 58 bc yet...but I saw him at TFT...Seems he did not mention the nervii faction too? must be TFT

[bucellarii]

I can confirm that the six starting legati are

Titus Labienus
Quintus Pedius
Publius Sulpicius Rufus
Gaius Caninius Rebilus
Gaius Trebonius
Lucius Munatius Plancus

Marcus Antonius is scripted to appear in 54

Gaius Scribonius Curio joins Caesar at the opening of the Bellum Civile

Gnaeus Domitius Calvinus, Publius Cornelius Sulla and Quintus Fufius Calenus appear in Rome after the successful conquest of Italy.

Octavius is correct to state that the legions in 58 BC: Caesar Imperator! are identified by number only.

The legions are:

Legio V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XXVI, XXVII and XXVIII

[pcaravel]

I can confirm that the six starting legati are

Titus Labienus
Quintus Pedius
Publius Sulpicius Rufus
Gaius Caninius Rebilus
Gaius Trebonius
Lucius Munatius Plancus

In my campaign the last three guys can never get the Legatus trait, not even the Tribune trait. They only have the Former-Legatus. I mentioned it in an other post a couple of days before. I don't know if this is a bug or something.

[narren2002]

sorry all... my mistake...

its:
THE FIRST TRIUMVIRATE v1.92
A late Roman Republic mod for RTW v1.5
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@ misplacedgeneral

"It has to be 58 BC. TFT does not allow for Named Legions nor Caesar in 58 BC."

i have them named just so i can keep track as to which of my gen.s are where and when they are supose to be where....
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@ Octavius Vatco

"But the legions of 58 bc are not named like that.. nor it was in history..yet...

the info i got the legions from is from here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_legions

sorry there were 4 to 5 pages i used for the info.. but right now i can only find this one that i used....
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@ bucellarii

"Octavius is correct to state that the legions in 58 BC: Caesar Imperator! are identified by number only.

The legions are:

Legio V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XXVI, XXVII and XXVIII"


so the 2 legions i have been looking for to make the 12 at alesia ??
"edit post" legio's XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, I can't find any info on these legions during the siege of Alesia of 52bc
anywhere, could you please give me the info as to where you found this. please
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and for all :

"Julius Caesar,
Titus Labienus,
Mark Antony,
Quintus Cicero,
Publius Crassus"
these are the history ones, i am not sure if i have them(all) in my FTF 1.92?
i will have to check... but i use them for my AAR, which i hope to have done soon...sorry no date yet.. sorting out pics and writing up the story line as best as i can...to have it make since.

[narren2002]

sorry for the dobble post but here is another web site that i used for this info on the legions from 58bc to 50bc...

http://www.unrv.com/military/legions.php
the info on the page and the index on the far right also has the rest.

i have now gotten all of gaul, and 3 of the 4 in britian and have moved the 10 legios i had at Alesia...off to Rome..but my plebes are not happy enough for an attack... and it is in spring 49bc already.. i should be in Rome by now..some what....i will have to back track my saves to fall of 52bc i guess...its not that i am cheating this way, just trying to play historicity i guess..the sad thing is that Vercingetorix did not stay in Alesia, he was all by him self.. ^*&^&%^# me off.

[Octavius Vatco]

Hey narren.. I also did the same thing when i played tft..I only named two legions in my mind.. only the Legio X Eqvestris and the
IX triumphalis .. the civil war though should've started after you acquire the triumphal arch at alesia...i
f not. i think you have to invade italy by 49..

[narren2002]

but the game at this point wont let me.. i can march my legions all over and around Rome and the other cities, but cant attack them, not enough plebe support...

so i am keeping that campaign and going back to 54bc to do it another way, which i wanted to do, but is some what not historic . ooops did i say that..

pics and story line is almost done,

[Octavius Vatco]

Maaybe you should have use Caesar for most of the battles so he can acquire bonuses fro his traits that would increase his popularity with the plebs. Thats one of some features in TFT I love because of its representation of historicity.( the one with gauges of popularity to both senate and the plebs that is)

[narren2002]

i will try that.. thanxs