Faction - Kingdom of Hungary

[MagyarMatt]

Thats one of the main reasons the Latin names are being considered; the official language at the time for the upper citizenry, nobility and royalty was latin.

Granted that's true. However if all the settlements etc end up being named in Latin then the whole thing will have a Rome feel to it. I'd rather a fully Eastern European flavour even if it techically is not as historically accurate.

[\Vazul's Ghost/]

Granted that's true. However if all the settlements etc end up being named in Latin then the whole thing will have a Rome feel to it. I'd rather a fully Eastern European flavour even if it techically is not as historically accurate.

Well I don't know about all the settlements... I was just thinking of the faction name. Yes we have spent that long disgussing jus the faction name

[Matthæus]

Actually it didn't. There are less woodlands and swamps and rivers are regulated. Not so much for game purposes. The maps you linked are simply primitive.

Who is the mapper? Do you need maps?

il_duce is in charge for map

[il_duce_!]

Actually it didn't. There are less woodlands and swamps and rivers are regulated. Not so much for game purposes. The maps you linked are simply primitive.

Who is the mapper? Do you need maps?

Yeah, post them here.

[Csatádi]

Light blue: very swampy.
Even lighter blue: swampy.
On the lowlands there should be only a few trees but Transdanubia, upper Hungary and Transysvania should have big woodlands.

Or look at these maps: http://www.ace.hu/igcp442/maps.html
The old size of the lakes are shown on these maps even better.

[Silesian_Noble]

A very interesting map! Could you share a version of larger resolution, so the settlement’s names would be nicely visible?

[Csatádi]

Look at this one:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/~mihalyi/prob...370%20domb.jpg

The 2 extra lakes on the pictures of my previous post were actually swamps almost always covered with water. You may add these as lakes, too. They were on the lowlands.

[Csatádi]

Hungarian ruling family in 1345

Károly dead
- wife Erzsébet 37years old

sons:

Lajos 19
ReligionStarter 1 PublicFaith 8, brave 8, NaturalMilitarySkill 2, KindRuler 1, BattleChivalry 3, StrategyChivalry 4, anger 1
(if I remember well numbers are thresholds and not levels in desc strat)
- wife Margit 10 years old
she actually died during the great plague

Endre 18 dead (he was the husband of Johanna queen of Naples)

István 13
Prince of Slavonia


Archbishop of Esztergom: Telegdi Csanád 59 years old
Archbishop of Kalocsa: Büki István (put the Büki name to the list of surnames)

Notable generals:
Lackfi István, Vajda of Transylvania, successful commander
Nagymartoni Pál, országbíró
Gilétfi Miklós, nádor



****Politics******

Hungarian-Naples relationship -1.0
Naples-Hungary -0.3
Pope-Hungary -0.2
Hungary-Pope 0.4
Hungary-Austria 0.2
Austria-Hungary 0.2
Venice-Hungary -0.3
Hungary-Venice -0.3
Hungary-Wallachia, Bulgaria, Serbia -0.2
Wallachia, Bulgaria, Serbia-Hungary -0.3
Hungary-Turks -0.3
Turks-Hungary 0

Alliance with Austria
1345 Croatian rebellion but Lajos crushed it in this year another source says without any fight.
Venice besieges Zadar.
At war with Naples and Venice


I'll edit this comment later.

[il_duce_!]

New crown model for the campaign strat model of the Hungarian king.

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[Son of Mao]

Very Nice!

[Csatádi]

New crown model for the campaign strat model of the Hungarian king.

Great! You can make the cylinder higher and erase the needless parts with alpha channel.
You may work a bit with proportions, it should be a bit flatter and the bands may be wider.

***
I started to make a name list for you. I will make the Hungarian part easily but I found only 2 Croatian name for the period: Mladen and Matko. But I'm sure Matko could help finding other ones.

[Matthæus]

Great! You can make the cylinder higher and erase the needless parts with alpha channel.
You may work a bit with proportions, it should be a bit flatter and the bands may be wider.

***
I started to make a name list for you. I will make the Hungarian part easily but I found only 2 Croatian name for the period: Mladen and Matko. But I'm sure Matko could help finding other ones.

well the name Matko MUST be included in the mod .

[MagyarMatt]

How will Hungary be represented in the game in terms of strength? I think in the area of the world the mod focuses on that along with the Byzantines and later the Ottomans that the Hungarians were one of the stronger factions. Will it work out like this in the mod? In vanilla MIITW, Hungary always seemed a little on the weak-side to me, especially when it came to Mounted archers. In Vanilla, the Byzantines have better Mounted archers but in reality Hungary's greatest strength was in this field.

Looking forward to seeing how they turn out!

[il_duce_!]

Yes, Hungary will be one of the most powerful factions. They will get more then 12 provinces at the very start of the campaign.

[Csatádi]

Names rough version

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Male

{Andras}András
{Antal}Antal
{Balazs}Balázs
{Balint}Bálint
{Benedek}Benedek
{Bertalan}Bertalan
{Boldizsar}Boldizsár
{Ciko}Cikó
{Csanad}Csanád
{David}Dávid
{Demeter}Demeter
{Denes}Dénes
{Detre}Detre
{Dezso}Dezső
{Dome}Döme
{Domokos}Domokos
{Dozsa}Dózsa
{Endre}Endre
{Ferenc}Ferenc
{Frank}Frank
{Fulop}Fülöp
{Gergely}Gergely
{Gyorgy}György**
{Herman}Herman
{Hervoja}Hervoja
{Imre}Imre
{Istvan}István***
{Jakab}Jakab
{Janos}János***
{Kalman}Kálmán
{Karoly}Károly
{Lajos}Lajos
{Laszlo}László
{Lorand}Lóránd
{Lorinc}Lőrinc
{Lukacs}Lukács
{Mate}Máté
{Matko}Matko
{Matyas}Mátyás
{Mihaly}Mihály
{Miklos}Miklós *****
{Mladen}Mladen
{Oliver}Olivér
{Orban}Orbán
{Pal}Pál
{PeterM}Péter
{Rajnald}Rajnald
{Robert}Róbert
{Sandor}Sándor
{Sebestyen}Sebestyén
{Simon}Simon
{Szaniszlo}Szaniszló
{Tamas}Tamás
{Ulrik}Ulrik
{Vilmos}Vilmos
{Vince}Vince
{Vlatko}Vlatko
{Zsigmond}Zsigmond

Female

{AgnesM}Ágnes
{Agota}Ágota
{Anglis}Anglis
{Anna}Anna***
{Apollonia}Apollónia
{Barbara}Barbara
{Borbala}Borbála*
{Brigitta}Brigitta
{Cecilia}Cecília
{Dorottya}Dorottya*
{Drusiana}Drusiana
{Erzsebet}Erzsébet**
{Eva}Éva
{Fruzsina}Fruzsina
{Hedvig}Hedvig
{Ildiko}Ildikó
{Ilona}Ilona*
{Jeronima}Jeronima
{Judit}Judit
{Julianna}Julianna
{Katalin}Katalin******
{Klara}Klára*
{Krisztina}Krisztina
{Lucia}Lucia
{Magdolna}Magdolna
{Margit}Margit**
{MariaM}Mária*
{Medea}Médea
{Orsolya}Orsolya
{Polixena}Polixena
{Potenciana}Potenciána
{Sara}Sára
{Veronika}Veronika
{Zsofia}Zsófia*
{Zsuzsanna}Zsuzsanna

Family

{Balassa}Balassa
{Banfi}Bánfi
{Bathory}Báthory
{Bebek}Bebek
{Cillei}Cillei
{Csaki}Csáki
{Csuz}Csúz
{Czudar}Czudar
{Debreceni}Debreceni
{Drugeth}Drugeth
{Forgach}Forgách
{Frangepan}Frangepán
{Garai}Garai
{Gereb}Geréb
{Giletfi}Gilétfi
{Gonyu}Gönyű
{Hedervari}Hédervári
{Horvati}Horváti
{Hrvatinic}Hrvatinic
{Ilosvai}Ilosvai
{Kanizsai}Kanizsai
{Kaplai}Kaplai
{Kompolti}Kompolti
{Kont}Kont
{Lackfi}Lackfi
{Losonczi}Losonczi
{Locsei}Lőcsei
{Marcali}Marcali
{Maroti}Maróti
{Nadasdy}Nádasdy
{Nagymartoni}Nagymartoni
{Nekcsei}Nekcsei
{Orszagh}Guti Országh
{Ozorai}Ozorai
{Paksi}Paksi
{Palizsna}Palizsna
{Paloczi}Pálóczi
{Perenyi}Perényi
{Petenye}Petenye
{Peto}Pető
{Pomazi}Pomázi
{Rozgonyi}Rozgonyi
{Sirokai}Sirokai
{Stibor}Stibor
{Subics}Subics
{Szecsenyi}Szécsényi
{Szecsi}Szécsi
{Szentgyorgyi}Szentgyörgyi
{Szepesi}Szepesi
{Szilagyi}Szilágyi
{Telegdi}Telegdi
{Thalloczi}Thallóczi
{Treutel}Treutel
{Ujlaki}Újlaki
{Zambo}Zámbó
{Zrinyi}Zrínyi
{Zsamboki}Zsámboki


*These names should be multipled in descr_names.txt because they were extremely popular. Every * should mean an extra slot.

Matko please edit in this post the spelling of Croatian names.

[MagyarMatt]

Yes, Hungary will be one of the most powerful factions. They will get more then 12 provinces at the very start of the campaign.

Just wondering what size map you guys are planning on using, Will you go extra large at the expense of turn time or stick to regular vanilla size? Personally I like the larger maps and don't mind having to wait a little longer. Anyway back on topic, has it been decided what Hungarian settlements will be used?

*ok i just spotted the map thread. Should answer my first question!!*

[Csatádi]

Sarmatian:

These are the cities to which I found estimation.

Cities in Kingdom of Hungary
| *: free royal cities
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Buda and vicinity (with Óbuda) 15 000+ 15th century |
|*Buda (inside the walls) 8 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Pest and vicinity 10 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Debrecen 8 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Szeged 7 000+ 16th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Brassó 6 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Kassa 5 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Kolozsvár 5 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Nagyszeben 5 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Pozsony 4 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Selmecbánya 4 000+ 16th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Beszterce (Transylvania) 4 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Sopron 3 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Bártfa 3 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Besztercebánya 3 000+ 16th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*Eperjes 3 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Lőcse 3 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Székesfehérvár (inside the walls) 2 500+ 12. century |
| Székesfehérvár and vicinity 3 500+ 12. century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Nagyszombat 2 000+ 15th century |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Esztergom (inside the walls) 2 000+ 15th century |
| Esztergom and vicinity (19 settlements) 8 000+ 15th century |

I suppose the rest of the cities had less inhabitants or have no estimations.

[Sarmatian]

Thans mate...

[il_duce_!]

Can I use this picture, at least as a source for the kings clothes?

[Csatádi]

Yes, you can. The painter used period pictures and statues to his works.