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    SPARTA TOTAL WAR II [2.0 for RTW 1.5 [it is this time! ]]

    edit3; mod now complete!

    download:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1824


    new britons! complete re-skin with info cards and 5 new units!

    furies; britons version of screeching women ~ but a little more powerful and dressed in black. these arent how i wanted them to look exactly, but the nearest i could get - no flaming torches as yet [working on it?!]
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ons/furies.jpg

    ovates_of_Andrasta; female poison bows equal to chosen archers, based on scythian noblewoman model.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ofAndrasta.jpg

    caledonian_longswords; warriors with longswords, have a very powerful attack but no armour.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...longswords.jpg

    followers_of_belatucadros; a berserker unit that launches the enemy skywards with massive clubs.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...latucadros.jpg

    swords_of_Vitiris; i especially like this unit, they are powerful druid swordsmen possibly the predecessors of the arthurian age style units.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...fVitiris-1.jpg

    infantry; as an example of the re-skinned existing units...
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ntrybriton.jpg

    edit2:
    new thracians! with new units - a complete re-skin and unit cards. macedon has been re-skinned too [with alex units and colours]

    i never wanted to play as these but now i will!
    new units:
    Zalmoxis Rhomphaia cavalry; powerful and plentiful cavalry with extra long rhomphalia swords. just awesome.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...aiacavalry.jpg

    thorakitai; followers of the god thor, these are the main battle line of armoured Peltasts.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...thorakitai.jpg

    getae mounted archers; getae horse archers are from the northern thracian tribes and can stand up to their scythian equivelant,

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...tedarchers.jpg

    generals guard; new mounted guard based on armoured hoplite.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...eralsguard.jpg

    examples of old units:
    pikemen; re-skinned.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...03/pikemen.jpg

    falxmen; re-skinned.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...03/falxmen.jpg

    all units now re-skinned in the above colour scheme.

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    edit; spartan hoplites now changed again with new shields and clearer faces! [better than shown below, with no black outlines on the shields]

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    this will be more like ‘time commanders’ as a tw game! most units will be hostorically accurate although time periods may be a little flexible. this is to get the best game play as you cannot really get historical accuracy because of the games limitations.

    i am completely overhauling version 0.5 and have deleted version 1.0 as there were issues with skinning and directories not located properly.

    version 2.0 will have:

    . many new units and re-skin of rome, carthage and sparta.
    all new skins are very high quality after over 100 hours work!

    . all regions will be large towns so the only difference in factions will be the units, so you win by having better tactics not more and stronger regions [i did make it so all had huge cities, but romans attacked each other too quickly and before they were strong enough]. edit; though i may give romans greeks and carthaginians cities.

    . new battle system [updated/better].

    . new campaign colours

    Romans:
    re-skin of romans! most units have been redone with new [some photo-realistic] shields, mostly by myself and by adding Agarts great roman skins, plus kla’s nice spartan skins and i used some bits from his and many many other skins from the download section.

    new kinds of legions, named and with unit cards.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...newbanners.jpg

    veterani; powerful units with very good moral but expensive.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...I/VETERANI.jpg

    legiostator; a strong guard unit only available in cities.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...egiostator.jpg

    roman legio XIII Gemina; only available in conquered provinces. i.e. not available in cities but all below, romans will all have cities so they cannot build them until they have conquered. will have their own legio XIII with lion emblem standard carrier!
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...XIIIGemina.jpg

    pretorians
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...PRETORIANS.jpg

    urban cohort
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...rbancohort.jpg

    legion II
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...II/legion2.jpg

    roman auxiliary marines; a merc unit as it is light blue and i dint want to see loads of them, its shield was from a historical re-enactment site so i didn’t want to change it.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ARYMARINES.jpg

    Spartans: most are as in version 0.5, see that thread for images [archers are now just archers - but red]

    1. changed stats in edu so spartans are now more rounded, this isn’t as historically accurate but the game plays better. before the auto resolve thought the spartans were weak as they had little armour, and the other factions sent weaker armies as a result.

    2. ‘Spartan kings guard’ now has leonidas face directly sampled from photo! [film still] you can see it much better too, where before the face barely shows and the upper part was just flesh coloured. they are named too, are recruitable and separated form other greek generals.

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...dashimself.jpg

    spartiates are now named spartiates, with descriptions and unit cards etc.

    spartan phalangists

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...halangists.jpg

    all units are now dark red and have a new banner carrier.

    Carthaginians;
    complete re-skin including new elephants and new units:

    scutarii; new skin and nice new shield, named and with unit cards and descriptions.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...I/scutarii.jpg

    archers; new skin, named and with unit cards and descriptions.

    composite bowman; new skin, named and with unit cards and descriptions. expensive, but have - copied - powerful Egyptian composite bows.
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...sitebowman.jpg

    bull warriors; new skin, named and with unit cards and descriptions. elite unit only available from conquered spanish lands [or from towns only if i can’t do that].
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...llwarriors.jpg

    there are more loading screens too.
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    celts, germans, dacians, scythians will be added quite soon, scythians will be iranian/germanic in apearance, not mongolian i am afraid.
    Last edited by Amorphos; March 05, 2008 at 06:55 AM.
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    wow! what good skinning! I will download it as soon as i can!
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    thanks supeerm, i must give full credits to agart and kla as the skins are a blend of all three of us approximately in equal parts.

    what i will do is upload this mod probably at the weekend, then i wll do a few factions at a time as add-ons until it is a complete re-skin. i may even have a bash at the campaign map, but i will not make it larger or add provinces as this game is all about keeping the game running fast as vannila rome, whilst giving it a new flavour.
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    Quetz. If you ever need any help I can edit existing textures for you.
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    ephialtes the dog
    hi and thanks! i could certainly do with some help, i am doing the gauls, britons and germans in the next release as an upgrade, so if you could pick any other faction and re-colour them that would be great [esp dacia and scythia]. ...and of course you would get full credits for anything you do!

    i will upload this version late sunday, and post a link here for anyone who wants to test it out.

    are there any spartan/roman units you would add or remove?

    thanks!
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    edit; btw you probably know this already but a quick way to recolour skins is to copy a skin and make a new image then change the hue until you get the new colour, then just clone the clothes form the changed image to the original. all i do is locate the clone tool in any corner then you can clone any part one one image to any part of another.

    oh and of course use DXTbmp software ~ that is where i went wrong before lols
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    Here is the best HOPLITES: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1525
    use them in Your mod

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    antiochus

    yeah i got those skins , i have used the 300 units and made them a bit better ~ i am sure kla could do them better still but don’t have the time. i will add his late spartans to the mod too i think, i was going to add athenians ect but you get too many colours going on and it spoils the spartan look.
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    Crap, I just found out I got to go to Cali for the next three weeks and i'll be away from my comp so I cant help till then, I will however start when I get back. Sorry about that.

    And as for the Spar's and the Romans, I think what you've got is good.
    "So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But, sure enough, I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show."

    -Del Preston

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    no problem mate, catch up later.

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    just added spartan phalangists
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    update

    now has thracian and macedon re-skin!

    all i have to do now is balance all the new units, then it will be ready for upload [by the weekend].
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    The skins all look great good job.
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    thanks leonidas, i am now in two minds as to release it now or re-skin gaul and germany :hmmm:
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    Always go with your first instincts - never second guess. At least I support that train of thought and try to live by it. A huge part of playability are the skins. I say re-skin.

    I went through this decision making process recently and now I am so glad I chose to move forward with re-skinning. I know its more work but I think you will be happier later on.
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    i think you are right, i have always hated the skins for gaul briton and germany especially, and i think they could do with more units esp mail armoured elites. gaul seams to be the weak part of this mod while everywhere else is balanced.

    + it is most rewarding to see your own creations in the game eh!
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    Well said - and good decision no need to rush it - make it good. No point in making a mod unless its complete the whole purpose of making is so that people will play it. I agree with you though thats why I love skinning - seeing your work exsist in a game is a huge satisfaction.

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    germans and gaul completed. germans now have ostrogoth colours.

    britons almost complete with 5 new cool looking ‘druid’ type units. furies, elite swordsmen, berserkers, barb cavalry [obviously non druidic] and poison arrow female archers. i done these as i wanted to represent the type of units the romans would have met at the battle of ynis mons.

    screenshots soon! then i will wrap this mod up for now and upload it!
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    Good Job! I am actually developing trigger finger from doing so much skinning this month - thats not a joke either. I am looking forward to the screenies

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    yeah once you get going there’s no stopping lols, what mod are you working on? i have done 6 new units for the britons now, all is complete except the caledonian_longswords unit.

    new units for britons will be:

    furies; britons version of screeching women ~ but a little more powerful and dressed in black.
    ovates_of_Andrasta; female poison bows equal to chosen archers, based on scythian noblewoman model.
    caledonian_longswords; warriors with longswords, have a very powerful attack but no armour.
    followers_of_belatucadros; a berserker unit that launches the enemy skywards with massive clubs.
    swords_of_Vitiris; i especially like this unit, they are powerful druid swordsmen possibly the predecessors of the arthurian age style units.
    barbarian_cavalry.

    screenies tommorow or saturday!
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    I am working on my own re-skin project.

    I think you should go with a naked raw look for your babarians - almost like the Vendo from the 13th warrior? Thats kind of how I imagine Frank Miller would have drawn barbarians up to be. You could use the old German beserker vanilla model - skin it well- maybe mix it with the old night raider skin, touch it up and re-intruduce that bad boy as one of the Barbarian units. They always looked crazy to me. Just my two cents.

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