Lusteds Battle AI and Campaign AI

[Raymond]

Great mod! Thanks for the hard work and of course the quick replies that I needed help with.

[Rubini]

Hi, my first post here.

My question is about Lusted's Battle AI and Campaign AI compatibility with M2TW stand alone with patch 1.2/1.3.

I´m an old TW veteran from Shogun, Medieval 1 and Rome...and now new on M2TW after 2 years playing almost only Silent Hunter 3! lol
I just finished my first short campaign, then I'm done with vanilla. And prior to try some big mods (like SS) I just want an AI improvement...This is why I´m here with this question...

-So, is Lusted's Battle AI and Campaign AI mod (the version present on this thread) compatible with M2TW without Kingdoms (patch 1.2)? Or I need to patch my vanilla M2TW to 1.3 first? Or in the end is Lusted's Battle AI and Campaign AI really only compatible with Kingdoms?

Obviously I tried to find this info using the search tool but believe me, isn´t easy to have sure about M2TW mods after the release of patch 1.3 and Kingdowns! Is really a bit confuse for the new guys.

In the end if this mod isn´t compatible with my installation (M2TW vanilla patch1.2 - I don´t have Kingdoms) can you point to me some good compatible AI mods?

Thanks in any advice.

Rubini.

[BALERI0N]

I recommend increasing the movement points of name characters and generals in descr_character.txt as it helps the AI out.

Can someone tell me where I can download a file for this? If this is something I have to do myself, what do I change the values to?

[N3rull]

Supreme mod. Improvements visible right at the start.
- my armies and enemy armies finally begin the battle in sensible, solid and balanced formations. Particularly useful when defending against Sallies. Playing the English I don't even have to change the formation *at all*.
- AI really works better in battles. Their units move more together and with more sense.
- AI is way more aggressive against Rebel settlements, builds larger forces, makes generally more sense with their movements.
- Diplomatical ceasefire offers finally work sensibly. It was turn 5, Scotland had only Antwerp (good sea rush on their part) after I blitzed their Settlements in Northern Britain and decided I want a ceasefire (I just wanted Britain united). So I trained a diplomat and moved to antwerp and offered Ceasefire. And guess what, it didn't say "Very Demanding" , it said Generous and Scots sgreed. Finally the AI sees that continued war with someone 10x stronger makes no sense at all. HOOAH!
Good job Lusted.

[pontypool]

does your mod stop archers (Set to guard mode) from holding their position and instead just retreat anyway like they are in skirmish mode?

also is it responsible for removing flaming arrows??
i use the kingdoms grand campaign mode and i like the larger map and more cities,also like the longer game at 0.5 years per turn. but i dont like those first two points very much at all, so i may just use your mod only and not the kindgom one if thats the case.

[SigniferOne]

Guys, can you offer more testimony of how the AI performs?

Also, Lusted I like what Xeryx is doing with AI. I know you've had some falling-out with these sith in the past, but what's your opinion of the xeryxAI?

[Lusted]

I've never played it. Had a brief look over his files once and it all looked good but that was it.

[pontypool]

why dont archers hold their ground with your mod anymore?

[salaminomaxos79]

Supreme mod. Improvements visible right at the start.
Good job Lusted.

i agree with you!

[The Border Reiver]

Hi Lusted....with using the Campaign AI with the Britannia Campaign for my mod; which AI's would you substitute for (england, wales, barons_alliance)

Also am I correct that only the campaign script and the descr_strat needs these labels changed?

[N3rull]

A little feedback then. I found only one real flaw for now.

AI is unwilling to initiate diplomacy with other AI to offer a ceasefire. See HERE. 80% of these wars are far outdated, Sicily being the best example - they were excommunicated and reconciled over 50 turns ago (there was a Crusade for Tunis back then) and they haven't fought anyone (or been fough by anyone) actively ever since. I have met this problem myself too, as I warred with Scots, Milan, Danes and Sicily, and only Milan happened to send in an emissary requesting a Ceasefire (during ~15 turns after we stopped attacking each other)

Ceasefire offers are calculated adequately though, a nation that I'd given ass-whooping will understand that my offer of ceasefire is "very generous".

[Term]

Looking over this thread I really didn't see any installation instructions. Do you just replace the regular files in MTW2 with these? And can anyone verify this working with steam? Or for that matter directing me to a steam friendly mod. I've tried installing a few mods and had no luck with my steam version.

[The Border Reiver]

Hi Term...yes you do. Just make copies of your original files and then copy and paste these new ones over the top, overwriting the originals.

[pajomife]

This battle AI is good ,you improve it since LTC 3,I use it in several mods and i compare it , with DLV AI.
As usually,your AI is to cautious,instead suicidal,mainly in generals,your general generally, keeps out of battle ,this is a good idea.
The flanking are almost prefect,just some indecision,but works.
But when AI is in defence,is to passive,if we range some AI arches,they still in some palace,they don't give a step to fire us.
But generally,is the best in the moment.

[The Border Reiver]

Thanks for everything Lusted. I have implemented your battle AI and campaign AI for my next version.

pajomife@iol.pt....is correct your flanking and general AI are the best to date of any AI I have used.

[Balmung]

I will be also using this in my Mods. Brilliant AI. I especially the patrols.

[-Traiano-]

Are both CAI and BAI compatible with Kingdoms, in other words can i place them into the britannia and teutonic campaign??

[N3rull]

If anyone could look into this problem or tell me if it is my problem alone I would be grateful.

I'm using the Lusted's CAI and BAI on vanilla M2 only.
The thing is (as mentioned in my last post) that AI doesn't enter diplomacy with other AI often enough. To be honest, in the last 80 turns of my campaign there has been not a single peace treaty, not a single alliance signed. Every faction is at a fake war with nearly every other faction and their military struggles are mostly limited to blockading ports once per 10 turns.

It's become a little upsetting... it is me, my ally and beyond our borders the whole world is at war with itself.
The game loses its heart...

[-Traiano-]

In my opinion you schould add something else to your vanilla...how about putting retrofit mod+grand unit addon+ lusted BAI and CAI??? this way you fix more bug than the onli AI and on the other hand you don't change the basic game too much!!??

[N3rull]

You misunderstood me. I'm not having problem with the rest of the game, but with LAI.
I don't want a ton of other mods and fixes, I just want AI factions to act sensibly.