Thrace worst faction?

[Illyrians]

Their units are. Half of their army are militia units(milita cavalry, m-hoplites) Their units are terrible. Any one agree.

[Wanted]

yeah i think so too, along with dacia.
But i like the bastarne units tough.. And Princeof macedon proved that its possible to win with them in mp (i think:/)

[Roman14]

I think both of those factions should have more units. They both are boring to play without enough diffrent units

[Scutarii]

I think both of those factions should have more units. They both are boring to play without enough diffrent units

Which is where mods come in!

[Illyrians]

Which is where mods come in!

which one. They have no cavalry units and militia hoplites make up the bulk of the army.(5 attack and 8 defense). At least Dacia has warband, nobles, falxmen(thrace2),they still have siege.... Dacia is better then Thrace.

[Shaun]

They get phalangites (sp?), don't they?

But yeah, I see what you mean. Falxmen are actually pretty good a killing legions, though.

[Dr. Croccer]

Bastarnae and flaxmen are really good. Also, Dacia is the only barbarian faction that gets ballistas.

In mods like TE, with Dii Warriors, the Thracians are powerful in the late game.

[Scutarii]

which one. They have no cavalry units and militia hoplites make up the bulk of the army.(5 attack and 8 defense). At least Dacia has warband, nobles, falxmen(thrace2),they still have siege.... Dacia is better then Thrace.

Well, I'm sure most mods change all the faction rosters to a degree. I know in XGM Thrace has one of the most comprehensive rosters due to an extensive AOR system that is unique to them.
But in vanilla, thrace is pretty bad. Falxmen and Bastarnae are their only two 'good' units, and they are easily countered by missiles. Although you can use a phalanx pikemen line with many bastarnae/falxmen as flankers fairly effectively in SP.

[Prince_of_Macedon]

The worst factions are Gaul and Spain. Thrace and Dacia are definitely better than those factions (generally-speaking). The most noticeable difference is that Gaul and Spain don't really have archers. Gaul's Forresters are way too expensive to use in low denarii battles, and Spain only has slingers.

Dacia is actually really dangerous since they have access to horse archers. The first time someone used Dacia against me, I figured it was just going to be a fun experimental battle. But then this guy busts out with horse archers (which is hard to counter if you don't expect it).

Also, Thrace is a solid faction, but you can't use them the same way you use Rome (since Thrace lacks any sledgehammer units like Urbans). You really have to think your way through your Thracian battles.

So, I'd rate Spain and Gaul below Thrace and Dacia. It's still possible to win with those factions, but it's a lot harder to pull off against an equally experienced player.

yeah i think so too, along with dacia.
But i like the bastarne units tough.. And Princeof macedon proved that its possible to win with them in mp (i think:/)

A lot of clanmembers use Thrace - and it was TotalWarFanatic who passed on some good philosophy for using Thrace. Basically, that philosophy is: stay organized and try to fill your roster up as much as you can

And I know I just berated Spain and Gaul, but I will be posting some AARs where I use each one in 3 consecutive battles online.

[Selifator]

And Thrace is lightblue which makes them ultracool!

[Shadows]

Thrace is actually okay if you know how to play them. I tend to use the best hoplites i can get for them, put them in phalanx mode and park my general behind them for a morale boost. Then flank with falxmen and let the falxes carve up the infantry. Only problem is cavalry, but you just need to recruit some of your own cavalry or use a unit with phalanx mode.

I'm using Thrace in my current SPQR campaign and I've conquered every town with a port on the Black Sea and I'm expanding into Asia Minor as well. Mainly thanks to falxes that can carve up the Pontic/Seluecids Eastern Infantry.

Trust me, with enough falxmen, Thrace can be a pretty good faction to play with, you just have to get some good falxmen and tie down the enemy so they can chop them to bits.

[Illyrians]

Thrace is actually okay if you know how to play them. I tend to use the best hoplites i can get for them, put them in phalanx mode and park my general behind them for a morale boost. Then flank with falxmen and let the falxes carve up the infantry. Only problem is cavalry, but you just need to recruit some of your own cavalry or use a unit with phalanx mode.

I'm using Thrace in my current SPQR campaign and I've conquered every town with a port on the Black Sea and I'm expanding into Asia Minor as well. Mainly thanks to falxes that can carve up the Pontic/Seluecids Eastern Infantry.

Trust me, with enough falxmen, Thrace can be a pretty good faction to play with, you just have to get some good falxmen and tie down the enemy so they can chop them to bits.

Well in Vanilla their terrible. They start out with Militia hoplites and they get crushed by any1. I still can win with them but they have nothing good about them. Ill rater have a german spear warband then the flaxmen.

[goldendunner]

I quite like thrace.

I use the SPQR post method with a phlanax line and flanking with quicker units. Pop north for Sarmatian Cav and HA, left for barbarian Cav.
Also with XGM mod you can build auxilliary buildings to have other nations cav.

[Scutarii]

And Thrace is lightblue which makes them ultracool!

You mean flourescent blue... Thier units are blindingly bright!

[Kratos]

I quite like the Thracian campaign. Lots of possibilities and hard choices early on but when you have conquered Greece and have silver/gold cretan archers in each and every army you can do whatever you want. Never played them online though.

[Wanted]

i cant stand their color but after reading all these replies i feel like starting a campgain with them.. Should i?

[czePowerslave]

I think that Prince was mostly reffering to online play not much of a campaign I guess...

[Vault Dweller]

Falxmen give you a run for your money with almost any early army - excepting phalanxes. They wiped out a unit of Macedonian Cavalry even when charged from behind in a matter of seconds. But I do prefer Dacia, if only for the Chosen Swordsmen.

[Illyrians]

Dacia is much better. They have warband, archers, falxmen, Nobles, has everything thrace has and more. Thrace infantry gets overpowered easily its not even funny. They have no tech tree. In my Bruitti campaing I easily raped them.

[Prince_of_Macedon]

Thrace infantry gets overpowered easily its not even funny. They have no tech tree. In my Bruitti campaing I easily raped them.

Couple of points:

- Dacia is pretty strong, but so is Thrace
- the AI doesn't know the first thing about using Thrace (not to mention that Rome is stronger than most factions to begin with). So fighting against the computer isn't the best measuring stick for determining a faction's potential