Comitata Curiata (Law and Constitution discussion)
The Constitution of the Roman RepublicQuote:
LEGITIVM DE CIVITATES ROMANI.
All Citizens of the Republic have, yet are not limited to, the following rights;
I.The right to vote in elections.
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II.The right to be a candidate in elections.
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III.The right to support any other senator by means of campaigning or offered help in their terms or candidacies.
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IV.The right of free and uncensored thought and expression;Further each citizen can make known his ideas in the senate with the only restriction of the polite and dignified manner of expressing them.
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V.The right to be gifted a clean trial if the citizen is questioned for misdoings against the Res Publica.
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VI.The right of protection from cruel, unusual, or unreasonable punishment
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VII.The Right of the citizen to be represented in his trial by either himself of anyone willing to speak in favor of the defendant.
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VIII.The right to be protected from unwarranted search and seizure.
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I.
Elections of the Res Publica
This section shall deal with the Republican electoral process
I.
The Consular term:
The consular term will be 1 week, after which period we shall have new elections for the next Consuls. Every two days,the elected official must play a turn, no matter if a conclusion has been reached in the senate. Once elected, the Consuls cannot re-run for office for one Consular term,but can put themselves up for Pro consulship.
II.
Censor term:
The active Censor will be voted each 1 month and cannot be Censor candidate again for one week after the end of his term.
III.
Tribunes,Praetors and Quaestor offices:
For these three offices the previous rules apply;Elections once per week,starting in Friday up to Saturday. The only restriction placed is that the active Tribunus cannot rerun for Tribunal office after two completed terms.
In General:
Henceforth the Senate will have three different elections;The Consular Elections will be held at each time the Consuls finish their terms with the maximum delay possible being 20 days after their elections.The Censoris Election will be every two weeks;Finally the Magistrate elections(Tribune of Plebes,Praetor,Quaestor) will be held every weekend.
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II.
Cursus Honorum
From this day forward, all senators shall follow their Cursus Honorum. Senators shall declare themselves a Patrician or a Plebeian when they enter the Senatus.
Patrician Cursus Honorum
Quaestor Treasury
Praetor - Magistrate/Orator
Consul Senior Magistrate
Pro-Consul Optional Governorship
Censor Senior Senator
Plebeian Cursus Honorum
Tribune of the Plebs Senatorial Role with veto power
Praetor - Magistrate/Orator
Consul Senior Magistrate
Pro-Consul Optional Governorship
Censor Senior Senator
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III.
On the governing of Political parties:
A. A political party shall be defined as a group of more than three senators with a common ideological goal, that work together to pass bills and amendments in the senate.
b. The senate shall make no law restricting the amount or number of political parties.
c. Political parties shall each be granted their own thread, the ability to create a signature, and the ability to craft an official ideology, which shall be displayed in the first post of their thread.
d. Political parties are absolutely not allowed to sponsor an official candidate in any election whatsoever. However, they are free to vote for someone based on party affiliation, so long as it is not official.
II On the Governing of Political Alliances
a. Any group of senators three or smaller will be officially termed a political alliance, and will not be allowed their own thread, signature, etc.
b. Political alliances may sponsor a candidate, but he also may not be an official candidate.
c. Any and all political alliances must be announced, in a thread that shall be designed for such a purpose, and must disband after two terms.
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IV.
Magistrates Romani
This section deals with the offices of the Roman republic
Office of Consul
(Must have Roma Surrectum mod,Elected position,Heavy workload,Plays the .sav file,Very powerful and dignified position)
-Must provide the senate with reports of all events happening during his term;
-Must obey the will of the Senate;If the Consul refuses to comply,he will be severely punished.
-Both Consul's have the right of Consular veto over each other.
-The Consul that has the majority of the votes will be the one to play out the game,until the Senate by vote gives the second Consul imperium.For easy discrimination of both,the Senior and Junior terms still apply.
-He is the General of the Roman army in the field and the Governor of the Republic in peace time;While he can order constructions,he may not recruit legions without the consent of the Senate.Also in the case of war,the Consul must wait for the senate to give him command over some Legions or the right to train his own men,called from now on Consular Legions.
-In every occasion(invasion,campaign against a foreign enemy etc) the Senate will by vote give imperium to one of the two Consuls.In the case of the Roman army been attacked without declaration of war,the active Consul will lead the battle.
-The active Consuls,after a positive vote from the Senate,can have some legions faithful to them,called Consular Legions,which can be used at the Consuls discretion.
-The Consuls can use their men to expand to the so called,Consular Expansion Areas(CEA in short),which will be a province or two under foreign sovereignty and be voted by the Senate.
-They can have the Pro consul give some battles or be the General in command for some turns if both Consuls will it so.Still,if the senate vote for a Pro consul to lead a war they are obliged to give him the save file.
Office of Proconsul
(Appointed Position,High Responsibility Office,Changing Workload,Influential Position,Needs Roma Surrectum)
Each Consul after finishing his term can apply to the senate to be given some province(s) to govern(the Proconsulate - any province or even a stack of provinces outside Italy).If the vote is passed,the Senator is named Proconsul and given a small army(plus a character) to use as he wills. The Proconsul can run for no other office except from the Censor office unless he is willing to abandon his imperium.His term will last one month, or four full consular terms; He also can ask or be asked in return to lead a campaign by senate or Consuls.
Office of Censor
Appointed Position, Influential Position, Moderate Workload, Receives the Game Save, Needs Roma Surrectum.)
The Censor receives the save game file from the previous Senior Consul, there is only one Censor.
Their main job is to investigate the previous Senior Consuls term, and make sure no cheats have been used (e.g. the process_cq cheat)
Make sure no illegal wars are occurring,
Generally make sure there are no discrepancies in the save game file.
They must also scrutinize the economy and make suggestions to the senate on how to improve it etc.
The Censor must then report their findings to the senate in the form of a report.
Also the Censor must constantly keep the Census updated and make sure the the candidates follow their respective Cursus Honorum.
A very important job of the Censor is their duty to investigate over senators, however no public action can be taken until they tell either sanada or winter, and have there permission.
If a senator seems to be distorting, rigging elections in anyway or other matters such as these, it is the Consuls job to investigate further and find ample evidence to lead an Inquiry.
Office of Princeps Senatus
(Appointed Position, Most powers Symbolic, Heavy Workload, Responsible Position.)
There is only ONE Princeps Senatus.
· Princeps Senatus can be from any party.
· They should keep track of Motions, Acts, Bills and Votes in the senate and then post their findings in the appropriate thread.
· They should keep track of Military casualties in battles, wars, conflicts etc and then post their findings in the appropriate thread.
· They should keep the peace in the senate, by ending debates that degenerate into name calling etc (Note: they do not have the right to end the debates, but if the Princeps decides that a debate has degenerated and sees fit to end it, the Senate should comply)
Office of Tribune of Plebes
(Elected Position, Influential Position, Powerful Position, Light Workload.)
There can be anything up to five members in the Tribune (of the Plebs), however the number of places available is subject to the number of people who put themselves forward for election to that position. The Tribune is there to act in the best interest of the senate and people of Rome, which generally means they request tax reductions etc.
· The right of Ius intercessionis, The Tribune's Veto. This power is used to counter act Motions, Bills, Acts, Votes etc that the Tribune member feels that it may take away power from the Senate or people.
Office of Praetor
(Elected position,Moderate power,Light workload)
The Praetor is a reporter of shorts; Every once or twice a week he will post an update on how the senate is doing,some personal stories,some funny comments etc.
The point of this position is to give an update on what the Senate thinks,votes,debates about etc in a funny yet informational way so our members will not get overwhelmed by the number of threads and Rp sessions.
Office of Quaestor
(Elected position,Little power,Light workload)
The Quaestor job will be to keep an eye on the treasury,post the end turn financial reports on the senate etc.His job is in a sense auxiliary to the Censor,so that the Censor can devote to the more important aspects of his job.
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V.
Offices of the Imperium Romani
This section deals with a possible switch to an imperial system of government. It outlines offices and details procedures for the transfer of power.
Imperator Romanum
(elected position,Very influential Position,Post-Marian office,Monthly term,Final Office achievable)
Once the Imperial reforms in the military have occurred,the Emperor office will be available;Every elections after the 100BC,the Senate will be presented with a chance to change the Republic into the Roman Empire. If the vote is passed(no vetoes allowed),then the senators will vote on anyone they please on being Emperor.
The Emperor will have to ratify the will of the Senate or present the senate will alternative motions and\or counter proposals.The Emperor has the power of Imperial veto, or the ability to veto any legislation for any reason whatsoever. He has the power to remove anyone from office and either appoint a successor or start an election. He can take control of the save at any time (pending senate confirmation), and may start any war or alliance he wishes.
The emperor may ask the senate for any title (eg Lucius Aurelius Lepidus Augustus)pending their approval.
The only real check on the power of an emperor is the ability of the senate to assassinate or depose him, whichever they wish.
The Emperor names his heir before the end of his term. He leaves his term by retiring from public life or with his death.
Imperial Heir
The imperial heir is one of three people. He can be the emperor's choice of an heir to the throne, a senate sponsored replacement, or an individual that claims himself the true heir.
Only in cases of assassination or deposition may non-imperial chosen heirs ascend to the throne.
Heirs can be chosen in one of two ways. Through a senatorial election, or an online battle for which both the winner and the loser writes an AAR post. The winner shall decide if the loser's character should live or die.
Office of Consul
Same as the Republican counter part; The Consuls won't have to trouble anymore with Proconsuls but with the Emperor himself,when he asks to be given the save(only after confirmation of the Senate).
Master of Treasury
Same as Censor;
Praefectus Praetorianum
New office;The Prefect of the Praetorian Guard will be responsible for the Emperor's safety. He decides if an emperor lives or dies in an assassination attempt (Senator Romani) plus they can be appointed by the Emperor to lead a battle;requires Senate's vote. Appointed by the Imperator, usually one of his most trusted servants.
Princeps Senatus,Praetor,Tribune of Plebes offices
Same as the Republican counter parts; except that any motion introduced by the emperor and vetoed by the tribunes may be brought up again, as many times as the emperor wishes.
Senator Romanus
After the Empire is established the Senators will have to put their motions under the discretion of the Emperor.If though the Senators of Rome feel that they have an irrational Emperor or want the Emperor eliminated in any case they must firstly gather all possible support(all the enlisted Senators be in favor of the assassination) plus having the favor of the Praetorian Guard - in a sense,the Emperor isn't God;He can die for defying the Senate...
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VI.
On the differences of Laws and Amendments
Laws
Laws are any motion passed in the senate with an enforceable goal. ie. the measure passed in your are the senate one
All bills should be relevant to a single topic. Senseless sections and clauses tacked on disrupt the purpose of a bill. Senators who agree with a certain section of bill but disagree with another are forced to make choices as to which side they favor more. Instead of a bill as a whole package it should be broken into its respective sections and each one voted on individually.
1. All bill should strive to be simple and to the point.
2. Irrelevant clauses (not pertaining directly to the main bill) should be removed
3. Any bill consisting of multiple pieces, and any removed materials should be voted on separate and treated as new bills.
is a law, and shall not be incorporated into the constitution. Instead, all important laws will be outlined in a new thread called THE TWELVE TABLES
Ammendments
Amendments may be proposed in the senate by any member of the senate. They shall require 80% of the non abstaining vote, and shall be put into a separate section of the constitution.
Tribunes may veto any amendment on any grounds, as may the Imperator.
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VII.
The technical subtleties of the AAR.
A. From now on, the Role Play threads are:
1) Curia Iulia-->The official announcements and motions for anything that goes on in the Republic.
2) Comitatia Curiata--->The assembly of the social classes, here can we can discuss the laws and how to update the constitution.
3) Comitatia Legata--->The assembly of the Legates, here we can discuss all matters of war and tactics against the foes of Rome.
4) Comitatia Popula--->The assembly of the Populi, here we can discuss all things that affect the populace of Rome (taxes, army recruitment, colonization of foreign provinces etc.)
B. When does a vote considered been carried?
A vote can be considered carried if the 60% of non-abstaining votes are in favour of said motion. A motion may not be closed if there are less than eight votes total. A motion may not be kept open longer than 3 days.
Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb
When do we start????
