Cvria Ivlia, Consulate of Sabinus/Lepidus

[Winter]

ooc We've been through this a million times...

[Caesar Rex]

Senators Senators Senators
Let us stand back for a moment and look at what is being said. I see the summer season has brought a lot of hot heads into the senate halls today. Such vibrance. But let us here the Consul and his proposal.

Please Consul Lepidus - tell us... how do you suggest we move forward?

[68 Powers]

He suggests we go and give flowers to everyone in southern italy..
leave this to the Warriors of Roma to do what is right for roma

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

I've posted the financial report for turn 0 in the Viaticus Optio. Go have a look if you need to.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

I agree with you, 68 Powers! You see, Consul Lepidus? Everybody, except you, wants war at all costs and the annexation of Southern Italy to the Roman Republic, entirely.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

II. No senator appointed Imperium may camp or encroach on Latium soil
This motion is on hold until further discussion and details have been given as per the Junior Consul's request.

Princeps Senatus Aquilinus

[Winter]

I would gather two legions together into a consular army, and and extra as a support legion. This army I would send secretly through the Appenines south to the lands around Tarentum. I would then fight Pyrrhus on his own ground.

After he was destroyed, I would occupy Tarentum, and declare a ceasefire with Epirus (It was Pyrrhus who was our enemy, not his people.)

Next, I would evalutate each of our cities, building appropriate infrastructure in each of them (ie roads, ports, farms, sewers, aqueducts, baths.)

After that I cannot say.

[Caesar Rex]

Princep Senatus, greetings. I did not see you there in the corner. Welcome

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

I motion that we disreguard the Senior Consul's suggestion to expand into Gaul and Illyria, turning our full attention to defeating Pyrrhus and his Phalanxes before moving north.

Yea I - Nay Nil

Princeps Senatus Aquilinus

ooc: i slept in and missed the whole debate.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Senators, I think the plan to expand into Gaul and Illiria was really not to be put into action immediately, but rather a set of territorial goals for the Republic in the long term. As so, I say that we must focus on Pyrrhus now, but not forget that we have, as a free people, natural borders to attain, in order to have enough land for our veterans and a prosperous status among the Mediterranean powers!

[Kritias]

Censor Claudius rises form his seat after many minutes of silence and thought;

<<Senators,have we lost clarity of our mind?Illyria? Cisilpine Gaul? I understand that all Romans want the glory of our Republic to last for a thousand years and more,but over expanding will not grant us this legacy!I urge our honorable senior Consul to withdraw his motions and I plea for rational mind here; We need to expand?Definitely!Do we need to expand to the cost of thousands and thousands liters of Roman blood?Definitely no!>>

[Caesar Rex]

And what of the italian states between us and Tarrentum? Do we occupy those on our way?

[68 Powers]

Agreed. Gaul and illrya are not to be touched. i want southern italy not to over extend ourselves senators.

[Winter]

@ the senior consul - No! You cannot attack a state simply because it is in your way! You simply march into Epriote lands quickly and quietly, perhaps through a mountain pass.

[Kritias]

Censor Claudius replies to the Consul;

<<Consul,if you could prove that the Italian cities are negatively dispositioned against the Republic(by there troop position and movements)then all here would agree to march to war against the Italian cities of the south...>>

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

or we could insult them into a duel...

[68 Powers]

I am already agreed censor.. Roma wants her land and she wants it now!

[Winter]

By the way princeps, under the new voting rules you may disregard any motion you feel is outlandish or ridiculous.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Junior Consul, you can disregard the motion of Illyria now. You can disregard it forever, but you should know that Calabria has a strategical importance and is hostile to us, as we discussed. We should not try to bypass or ignore the Calabrians or we will have serious trouble replenishing our legions in Tarentum, getting ambushed by them, or leaving our backs without guard in case of a future foreign invasion. As such, I say that we MUST conquer Calabria and everything that obstructs our way and is strategically important!

[Caesar Rex]

Fair enough. I will send out riders to gather reports on our so called neighbours and see what they are up too! But I say this. If we are attacked by any of these neighbours that you senators so wish to leave, then the blood of those citizens is on your hands. I withdraw my previous motion for now...