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[gaius valerius]

i read this on the thread about the Basileia total war mod, but they plan on integrating towns and castles in the same province. as they picture it - cant test it yet since it isn't out yet - holding the town means holding the province, but to completely control it you also need the castle, otherwise you lose half your revenues.

so basically that allows another faction to incapacitate your economy by taking the castle, or you keeping a foot between the door upon losing the town by retreating your army in the well-defended castle.

this feature - if it truly can be done - sounds like one of the most awesome ones i've ever heard. just imagine, depending on region they could be located closer or further away from the town. like in italy they would be close while in other farther off/bigger region they could be located more strategically near river crossings, mountain passes, etc.

even cooler it would enable you to attack and incapacitate foes without having to actually conquer settlements. just handicap them military and economically by taking the castle.

wonder if its really possible though... :hmmm:

[Hereward]

I'll second this. That would be a great new feature. Kind of like the permanent stone forts in kingdoms brittania campaign, only more significant and developed.

It always seemed a little unrealistic that once you take the major city of the region, you're automatically in complete control of an area many thousands of square miles large.

[Ataegina]

maybe forts like kingdoms, not castles i'm afraid this ill never work ...

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

It sounds like they are using Kingdoms permenant forts and removing castles all together.

EB has ideas for permentant forts, so stay tuned...

[Doctor Faustus]

MarcusAureliusAntonius has it right; we are going to remove the currently existing difference between towns and castles - all settlements will only ever be towns, and these towns are going to have most of the building features of castles in addition to those of towns. Our new "castles", in the sense of the issue raised by gaius valerius above, will basically be permanent forts. For more info, look to our subforum.

[lord_IRNBRU]

i think the permanent forts should still have a function to demolish them just incase you put it in the wrong way or you are leaving a area and dont want the enemy to take it and it can stop the map being cluttered.

[Doctor Faustus]

If I addressed this concern here, I would be hijacking this thread, so I won't. If you are interested in the answer, please pose your question again in the Basileia-subforum:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=503

[Shadow_Imperator]

Weren't some people experimenting with having a 'secoondary' settlement within a region. I remember paticularly a picture of a 'farming village' within a region that already had a city.. Mind you this was for RTW... I wonder if the code is similar???

[SGD2C]

Weren't some people experimenting with having a 'secoondary' settlement within a region. I remember paticularly a picture of a 'farming village' within a region that already had a city.. Mind you this was for RTW... I wonder if the code is similar???

im not sure, but i think someone took the grain resource and replaced it with the village icon. so its just their for looks, but it is available for merchants to stand on.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I recall something years ago where someone took the mines from RTW and made them look like villages, which you could upgrade in appearance and income. The problem is that there were no longer any mines.

[Space Voyager]

Wow, people have all kinds of ideas... Great. Can't wait to see what EB2 comes up with.

[MrMerisi]

Personally I didn't like the forced Castle/City dichotomy in M2TW.

As is well known, many cities grew out of castle-towns in the Middle Ages, and the castles evolved into fortresses which protected the city. Having to develop one over the other was always artificial.

I am very curious to see how this feature will be used for EBII. Judging by some of the ingenious implementations in EB1, I am confident that EBII will follow suit...in fact, along with role playing family members, this will be a "make or break" for me.

Can't wait!!

[Antonius]

Any additional cities would be fantastic! Especcially all around the mediteranian!!!!!

That would be fantastic!

[AlfonsoVIII]

Has anyone resolved that the AI doesn't attack forts? Just curious.

[Space Voyager]

Personally I didn't like the forced Castle/City dichotomy in M2TW.

Same here. IMO one of the solutions would be to somehow merge the two. You would be able to build all buildings in both types. And I mean ALL, including city/castle walls.

For city defences the game would always take castle walls to allow multiple wall layers.

The city wall upgrading could be transformed into city size upgrading (meaning the settlement surrounding the castle). The enlargement of the city would give you the opportunity to build more happiness, trade buildings and free militia units.

Such a system would give you the opportunity to build both types of settlements at the same time but still force you into specialization if you want to end up with a great citadel or a huge city.

[Space Voyager]

Well, would this at least be possible to mod? And does anybody find this interesting?

[spanish_emperor]

i believe this idea could be possible since i read somewhere that permanent forts could be turned into small cities....i think it was in the SS forum. Can't remember if they worked at all but