should turkey be allowed into the EU

[Muagan_ra]

I'd have no Problem if the Turkish would modernise elements of their code of law. This business of "insulting Turkishness" being a prisonable offence has to go - they need to toe the line with Europe on these issues if they want to be seen as equals.

[dogukan]

I'd have no Problem if the Turkish would modernise elements of their code of law. This business of "insulting Turkishness" being a prisonable offence has to go - they need to toe the line with Europe on these issues if they want to be seen as equals.

Don't get it wrong though. Insulting Turkishness in an official way. Like in a poltiical speech or in the government. I mean I bet I insult Turkishness more than foreginers Really, people of Turkey loves making fun of themselves.

PS:it is still wrong anyways

[Muagan_ra]

Don't get it wrong though. Insulting Turkishness in an official way. Like in a poltiical speech or in the government. I mean I bet I insult Turkishness more than foreginers Really, people of Turkey loves making fun of themselves.

PS:it is still wrong anyways

I was referring to the spate of writers and journalists who where jailed the past few years - can't think of their names right now. I like Turkey, honestly (I also really like Greece, bit incongrous I know...) but I do reckon it needs to be on par with Europe in terms of freedom of expression before it can join.

It's the only nation involved in modern European wars that isn't given the oppertunity to prevent war in the future, which is basically what the EU is about.

[TheSutekh]

Definitely no. In my opinion it contradicts the name of the union on cultural, political and geographical contexts. Yes, Istanbul ('gateway to Asia') is considered by some to be on the European continent but the entire country is clearly not. Sure Turkey has the potential to offer the union some things but imo other things within Turkey will have to change first, if membership within the union is something the Turkish people truly desire. What's more, Turkish membership will inevitably be met with feelings of discontent from a considerable number - if not majority- of people across Europe.

EDIT: 50th post guys just thought to mention it here instead of double posting

Then Southern Cyprus should be kicked out of the union as they violate those very factors you've given.

[Platon]

Then Southern Cyprus should be kicked out of the union as they violate those very factors you've given.

They are in just to piss you guys off - Didn't you get that already?

[TheSutekh]

They are in just to piss you guys off - Didn't you get that already?

Then the legitimacy of any argument that could come against Turkey is zero.

[AnthoniusII]

Before Cyprus becomes a indipentand state the English administration
reqruited 2000 TurkCypriots as Policemen...
GreekCypriots???none!!!
Who had the arms to terror the other's comunity population??
Whould the modern Turkey give the administrasion of their country to Greeks(10000 people most)today????
Why the Greekcypriots had to give the administration to the TurkCypriots back in 1960 when they were ONLY 18% of the population??
If the G/C had no right to deny the 18% of the population to govern the rest 82% then why Allevits or Greeks have not the goverment of the modern Turkey???
If today some Kurds would fortify with bankers and tunnels a block of Constantinople what the Turkish police should do???
Shouldn't the turkish police attack to them and restore the turkish administartion and order to that part of the city???
If yes why the cypriot police had no right to do this in the cities that t/cs
fortified their urban blocks with bankers and tunnels???
Why the cypriot goverment had not the right to restore the administration and the public order???
Where the t/c found the heavy machineguns and the bazukas in their fortified positions
if as you claim they were under threat all the time???

Please...can someone answer to these questions?:hmmm:

[Platon]

Then the legitimacy of any argument that could come against Turkey is zero.

It's funny really, cause that equals to the ammount of turks that have any understanding of arguments against Turkeys membership..

[IEROS LOXOS]

Please...can someone answer to these questions?:hmmm:

+REP ANTONIUS

[Thorn777]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS BACK.

[TheSutekh]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS BACK.

Sad. I was actually looking forward to revival of the "Armenian Issue" thread where a lot of really good questions were left unanswered.

[paokmam]

The thread has spoken! 60.88% NO!!!!!!!!

[dogukan]

The thread has spoken! 60.88% NO!!!!!!!!

so why did you bring it back?

[Treize]

'Should Turkey be allowed in the EU?'

Well well what do we got here...

If the EU stay's like this or takes even more power away from the souvereign states than I say NO, and that's in Turkey's interest also because if the EU stays a bureacratic wannabe superstate like this I prefer the EU to be disbanned than continuated (or we should leave it).
Or otherwise Turkey should become more secular (today the goverment is allready limited islamic but they have a hard time to keep the fundi's at bay), more free, more democratic and respect the human rights.
In otherwords Turkey is not ready YET (wait 3 decades and see again).
I have to admit Bulgaria, Rumania, Slovakia, Hungaria and the Baltic states ahould not be allowed either, but the EU bastards were afraid of Russian influenc I guess.

If the EU returns to it's roots and becomes and economical and limited political entity (free travel, and freetrade) than Turkey should be allowed (but then the immigration rulkes of the EU should be reversed or otherwise 10 million poor Turks will immigrated to our countries and we cannot house them).

A bad thing is that Turkey became less free, less democratic and less secular the last 5 years, very bad for the country.

Erdogan is a retard who whines about cartoons (sooo unsecular).

And that Obama prick should GTF out of European business.

[Ahlerich]

germany should be the only eu member. the eu should have the borders from germany in 1941

[TheSutekh]

germany should be the only eu member. the eu should have the borders from germany in 1941

That's not really a union then.

[IrishHitman]

Nope, they haven't fulfilled the Copenhagen Criteria yet.

[Treize]

germany should be the only eu member. the eu should have the borders from germany in 1941

Köningsbergen is Kaliningrad now get over it!

[Visna]

germany should be the only eu member. the eu should have the borders from germany in 1941

When in 1941?

[Каие]

germany should be the only eu member. the eu should have the borders from germany in 1941

Why? do you want to lose a third world war within 100 years?