There is lots of talk about this I made this thread to hopefully come to a conclusion about who is right once and for all. If that don’t work I will selectively edit one side to agree with who has the best argument.
There is lots of talk about this I made this thread to hopefully come to a conclusion about who is right once and for all. If that don’t work I will selectively edit one side to agree with who has the best argument.
if might is right i'll have to go with israel
yeah but the other pages dont come to an answer in ten days time i will judge whom is right and that is it for the lord has spoken.
once again. if might is right...
so you agree with israel why not the arabs they have kebabs god i want a kebab why do they taste better when you have been drinkng.
Neither and both.
Both sides are behaving in a manner one would expect them to given their particular situations. Both are responsible for morally questionable acts, we can never reach a consensus about who is cumulatively 'worse'.
It's hard to see a way out of the endless cycle other than absolute victory for one side.
Israeli occupation (1967-2005)
:hmmm:
Actually, after a few years it turns into annexation (if they apply Israeli laws on the land) Israel hasn't occupied territories in quire some time. They have, however, annexed plenty (well, by plenty I mean an incredibly small amount of land comparatively to any other nation's annexations)
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then and again there's always the samson option
lol aaaah, i miss the days of the samson option thread
Both are wrong. The wars have been going nowhere and the regions the Israelis conquer get returned by some peace treaty only to be reconquered in the next war. The Arabs are wrong because they taunt Israel and Israel is wrong because they gladly use the taunts against the Arabs and have become very shifty.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
ok but you never answered the question
No really, both sides are wrong and its very hard to choose. Israel got ganged when it first started and has been on the defensive side more then once, on the other hand they have been fairly shifty of any Arab activity and have started their fair of wars too, sometimes over small things. The Arabs have attacked the Israel first and dared it to go after them but it was mainly bluff. Only the most die-hard Arab nations still hate Israel right now and refuse to acknowledge its existence. But that group mainly consists out of Syria and Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon.
Both sides have started 3 wars, excluding small raids and attacks that had no consequences.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
again good answer well balanced and gives agood response with out getting bogged down in detail. however you dont answer the answer
I don't know. Both sides are equal in fighting equally pointless wars. But if you look at the small details then you might concluded that Israel is right, because the Arabs launched the first war (pretty stupid anwser but best I have)
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
No one is completely right or completely wrong. Thats what I have been trying to say. Neither have an eternal claim to the land thats why the conflict is so stupid.
Israel is wrong. Dont ask me why because my word is truth.
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Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
is that not a bit like saying hitler was not right or wrong someone has to be wrong.