Ok, I understand that Western Europe is extremely rich and the Euro currency is very strong. However, how come many Western Europeans still consider immigrating to USA? What is the appeal of USA that Western Europe cannot offer?
Ok, I understand that Western Europe is extremely rich and the Euro currency is very strong. However, how come many Western Europeans still consider immigrating to USA? What is the appeal of USA that Western Europe cannot offer?
Last edited by jankren; November 04, 2007 at 01:19 AM.
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Why do we go over there? I don't know, it seems exciting?
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Because we want to live in the home of the free and the brave. Also we all really dislike paying taxes for things we don't even use for instance the NHS instead we want to pay for insurance and have few taxes. Plus for all this talk of euros been liberal we all secretly want to live in a conservative paradise.
Plus we want to be able to buy games when they come out and not have to wait 6 months for lazy arse devs to put them over here.
alot of us people come to the uk for their retriement, infact i belive that after the irish and some other group americans are the 3rd largest immigration group into the uk, their is more of them here then their are africans for example.
but from my own personal exsperance they all seem to be O.A.Ps
at the same time alot of brits immigrate, lets be honest the uk has its problems and their are alot of racist biggots here who dont like immigrants themselves so they move to places like canada and the usa because they "think" its like britian was 20 years ago. and then many are horrifed to find out that in terms of % their are less white people in the states and canada then their are in the uk. of course their are many reasons brits leaves the uk but tbh when they are asked like they have been before on the news they give the usual immigrant hateing blame the liberals ansewer.
alot of brits go to france and spain as well, but most of them are again going their for retriement and are mostly O.A.Ps and tbh rather them their then here, atlest their they are not putting pressure on our services.
Last edited by LoZz; November 04, 2007 at 04:33 AM.
Wasn't aware we did. The majority of expatriated Britons live in Australia, New Zealand, France and Spain. Various reasons. New Zealand is attractive because it is so sparsely populated and the prices are rock bottom, compared to the UK, one of the most densely populated countries on Earth (losing out only to the likes of Bangladesh) where land and property prices are gigantic. Australia has massive recruitment drives for educated British workers and civil servants. France and Spain both have large populations of retired Britons. Canada and the USA have substansial populations too. But there is no 'drive' to emigrate to America, nor is Canada or the USA the most popular destination for ex pats.
Too long, didn't read; don't be arrogant, Spain is nicer.
Not a lot of Europeans head to the US, not when compared to other inter-continentional migrations. But the Euro is pretty expensive when compared to the Mark and Gulden and other pre-Euro European currencies. But Central Europe is probably the best place to be at this point, Germany is fabously rich thanks to export and trade through Europe and Hungary is probably the cheapest country if you are used to using Euros.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
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USA and the American Dream seems to be very appealing to Europeans
Many people leave thier home country for a better future or because they messed all up and hope in another country it would be easier to have success
US-America stands for all these selfmade Millionaires and Venture Capital, Start-Up Companies for possibilities and freedom etc.
Some People say e.g. that the Story of Bill Gates (starting his company in a Garage and becoming one of the richest persons on this planet) wouldn't have been possible in Europe because of the European Bureaucracy that regulates almost everything.
Agreed. I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as. And I believe that they should ... Our education over here in the US should help the US .. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so that we will be able to build up our future
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Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Because Europe is backwards compared to the US. Anyway, as far was i'm aware most don't emigrate to the US.
After i finish my degree i'm looking at emigrating, there's simply far more opportnity elsewhere where people are more open-minded. Europe is just a socialistic, conformist, burocratic mess.
Last edited by Syron; November 04, 2007 at 10:53 AM.
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Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
I don't think many europeans go to the US, some go temporarily for a job, but most come back after some years.
I don't know why you want to live in Hungary, it's cheap but you get paid barely anything compared to western Europe.
Yanks are very scared of socialism, does anyone know why?
Originally Posted by A.J.P. TaylorOriginally Posted by Miel Cools
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Originally Posted by Jörg FriedrichOriginally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
I never heard of western europeans moving to the states really. Perhaps some individuals. Well, okay, to be fair, I live in Sweden, we don't move around nowadays. People come in.
I Wouldn’t say that, Americans just have a tad more sensible economic policies.
Yours? Where do you think I’m from? Quite funny you assume i'm American
Our healthcare is **** and even worse than other socialistic health schemes in the rest of Europe. Good luck if you want an acceptable level of treatment when you need it. I use Private healthcare for some things anyway.
Stereotypes? I live in Europe and have travelled to America and many other places. I can see it with my own eyes. I also have friends from many other countries and they see the same general trends.
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