Yeah, I've thought about that, but there's not much space to put them. I wouldnt put them in the baltic... West of Denmark would be good enough, but it seems weird to put a great island there...
Yeah, I've thought about that, but there's not much space to put them. I wouldnt put them in the baltic... West of Denmark would be good enough, but it seems weird to put a great island there...
Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
Hi there,
The idea look awesome but why not extending the map a bit south to the Alps ? Including all Germany and a bit of France for a perfect Germanic Total War ?
Isn't it ?
Hope you'll release soon. Good work.
From reading the headings they look to be well written. You seem a man after my own heart. The Old English religion is sadly not as well documented than the Norse but it does seem that we are learning more about it all the time.
Sadly what we do know is rather neglected (especially in English education), but hopefully what with Beowulf films (sadly mostly bad, in my opinion) being made other aspects of Anglo-Saxon culture will be explored more fully outside of small circles of those of us who either believe in the faith or respect it and find some forms of guidance from it.
I shall read more of them when I have time.
To start with I will focus on Scandinavia, but when the main theme has been finished, I might go further south and/or west in a later version.
It will take quite some time before I release. I have very limited time to work on the mod.
Dansk Viking
Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
I would deary like to help out on the historical and theological side of things. I can't say I am very good at the technical side of mod making.
I back-up the other members suggestion (sorry for not naming you! I'm still pretty new) that the map should possibly extend lower as depending on the time span you could also reference the Saxon's wanderings in what is now Germany (they founded if I remember three different states as they migrated further south).
You seem pretty cunning concerning the norse religions, that will help getting that aspect as historically correct as possible, I'm sure Hross can help in this area too.
I haven't heard of the saxons wandering anywhere else than to the british isles, but I trust they did, as pretty much all tribes where on the move in this era. I will look into it, and as nothing is set in stone yet, I might expand the map a bit.
Dansk Viking
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yes, you're right, they moved south, but I think it was earlier, around 200.
Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
would really love both scandanavia and the british isles in a mod of this time period. with a map like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ain_500_CE.png.
only with perhaps more scandanvia
Like a northern Europe mod in the migration period... That would be kind of cool, but as I've said before I would really like to finnish the mod focusing on Scandinavia first. ATW already covered the British isles, so I don't think it will be to hard to expand the map later.
Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
They may have, but I was thinking more of the later migrations into Germany (on their way to eventually creating the modern state of Saxony) I think in the 500s they had moved south settling a large area on the banks of the Rhine and the original Duchy was founded in the 600s and was eventually subjugated by Charlemagne some time (I can't quite remember of the top of my head) in the early 800s and a new Duchy of Saxony created.
I am very cunning! It's one of my favourite areas of study.
It would be good as I feel the Germanic religions are stereotyped somewhat in popular culture, even in England where most of our customs hark back to that time.that will help getting that aspect as historically correct as possible,
He seems wise in such matters!I'm sure Hross can help in this area too.
Regards,
Rędwulf
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Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
Hello Dansk! I have always wanted a mod of pre-viking age scandinavians!
If you need historical help of the geats and swedes pm me
Oh and here is a vendel age warrior
http://medieval.ucdavis.edu/130/vhA.jpg
Nice picture!:
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Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
Those are excactly the factions I was thinking of. It could be cool if we could find clan names for all the factions... Frisians, Saxons, Jutes and English for example, and one tribe can be represented by more clans. There were other clans such as the Heatho-Bards (Jutes/English/Danish?) and the Węgmundings(Swedes/Geats?).
Last edited by Dansk viking; January 07, 2008 at 07:18 AM.
Gesaga him éac wordum, žęt hķe sint wilcuman Deniga léodum
Also the Heatho-Bards (Heašobards) where a "langobardic" tribe in germany who fought the danes
I've updated the list,
Factions:
North Germanic:
Scylfingas = Swedish Clan. Faction location:Mälardalen
Węgmundings = Swedish/Geats? location.?
Scyldingas = Danish Clan. Faction location: Danish Isles and Skåne
Hrethelings = West Geatish Clan. location: Västergötland
Wulfings = East Geatish Clan. location: Östergötland
West Germanic:
Eotenas = Jutes. location: Jylland
Heašobards = "the Warlike Bards".location: Mecklenburg,germany
Angles = location:Schleswig-Holstein
Saxones = location:Old Saxony
Should the mod have slavic or fin-ugrian factions?
Last edited by Haršurāšaz; January 07, 2008 at 01:54 PM.
Kaupang in Vestfold was the first town in Norway. You should include that in your mod
Thats very close to what I've found out!... I just can't figure why the Heathobards were from mecklenburg, could you explain to me how you concluded that?
If it's possible, we should find "clan" names for all factions... All we need for those without a such name, is the oldest known leader of the family... As in Węgmundings means descendants of Węgmund, Scyldings mean descendants of Scyld and so on... It may be pretty hard to find any relevant family names, but we should try, as we're going to have to make a family for the factions anyway.
Also the Scyldings should have Skåne. (not Blekinge, and only maybe a little of Halland.)
Don't you think we should go for the native names, using old norse names for the northern Germanic tribes?
I've also been digging a bit in the latest studies of the Heruls, and I've come to the conclusion that they should be included in some way. Maybe being an emerging faction. (in Blekinge and Småland)
read about them here:
http://www.gedevasen.dk/heruleng.html
There is also some interesting studies by the same author about the dynasties of the Danes and the Swedes (I just can't get hold of the book):
http://www.gedevasen.dk/summary.html
I don't think we should have slavic or fin-ugrian factions, unless offcourse there are some interesting ones in this timeperiod, which i doubt.
It will be hard to find settlements for the regions in this timeperiod, and I'm sure we will include Kaupang, with another name offcourse. Might be Skiringsalr or something...Originally Posted by Suppeelsker
Dansk Viking
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1.I just found another site, that they where from around Hamburg.
2.Agreed.
3.Ops I forgot Skåne ... , I read on wiki that the west geats had a stronghold in Bohuslän
4.Yes, Either Old Norse or Proto Norse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Norse