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    I understood that part, Ex Consul. You say that Carthage must be destroyed after our peace, and say how much possibility this will bring us. You then proceed to say you will not support a war with Carthage.

    What interpretation should I take? I do not understand your logic.

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    I will not support war during the peace is what i meant Fromer Consul.
    Then again of course will no one else so that part was no needed in my speech i was just trying to get my point across


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    You claim that as representative of the people you will not support the war, but after you will? your good will to the plebs ends with the end of your tribunate and the Pax?

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    I am sure the plebs will want to be safe from Carthage so a Little war with them will hurt no one.
    Just for Sicily and no further is what i am thinking.

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    And what of Syracuse? If we enter Sicily they will feel threatened also.
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    Ave Senator,

    By the time this Peace is over with Syracusa will be in Disaray and will be glad Roman presence is here.
    Either that or they will be Completely taken over.

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    We know nothing of a war on Sicily. For all we know Syracuse has taken over the whole island.

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    Then i am lost as to how we can keep an eye on Charthage.

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    Last edited by 68 Powers; October 13, 2007 at 09:12 PM.
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    Gentlemen there is more pressing matters then the rabble that is sicilians and Carthaginians. I agree with my fellow council that the we shoudl expand the fleet to 240 tiremes and i push that we destroy the rebels in souther italy.

    I put forth the motion:
    Destroy rebels on in Italia South

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    Also I announce that my choice for Censor during our joint councilship will be......


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    (ooc) dont forget to choose princeps senatus littlejim

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    Destroy rebels in the south of Italia.

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    Lvcivs Cornelivs Svlla enters the senate house with haste:

    ~~~~REPORT OF CONSVL CORNELIVS SVLLA,271BC~~~~

    Senators!The rebellion close to Croton is suppressed,those that defied Rome are annihilated.As it seems they were lead by a Roman deserter,a creature called Avgvstvs Memmivs.I am sure you will be happy to know that this creature is no more,a man from my bodyguard slew him while he was running for salvation,the coward!Also,i have commissioned the construction of 60 more war triremes,which will join our navy as soon as they are on water(Our navy is now 240 triremes strong plus some biremes the previous Consul has constructed).Also,I have taken initiative and started a grand sanitation program in the cities of Italy(i built sewers in every city that had none in order to avoid any plebeian killing plague).Finally,I wish to ask you if I may complete the project of Consul Balbvs and build to completion the road network by constructing paved roads to the cities that have none and Viae Consularis in all cities that can build them(Rome for example).Oh,and I continued upgrading any city that has reached maximum population in order to avoid squalor.As for economy,the sanitation program had its toll but we are back in track with 81,000 denarii in our vaults.

    Below are some pictures of my clear victory against the rebels,plus the financial reports of the two turns I played:


    Here is the deserter I told you about.


    The outcome of the battle against the renegades.


    We had some losses after the construction of sewers but...


    in the year 271BC,we are back in track!Our economy is flourishing!


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    That's excellent news, Consul Svlla. Those sewers should make the plebs even happier, and I think the construction of Paved Roads and Viae Consulares should be carried out quickly. (That is, if we all agree on it.)

    As for "destroying Carthage"...what have they done to us?
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    To tell you the truth I am between two opinions;On one hand,I agree with all you;Carthage have never offended us nor they have ever shown aggression against Rome.On the other hand though,I stand with Cato;The Carthaginians are too dangerous to be left unchallenged;They have men, money and an expansionist government.Soon I believe there's going to be open war on Sicily.The Carthaginians control Lilibeum and one more province while I would guess they are pressing for Agrigentum.The Syracusans on the other hand,are sieging Messana as we speak;Soon they will try to overthrow each other of their dominion on the island.What are we to do?Will we let the victor control Sicily,a powerhouse with ample coin,men and a good strategic position so close to Italy?Or we will try to take over the island?Have in mind that I talk of the future,not now as we haven't the men nor the ships for a seaborne invasion!I would propose thought,that spies are sent to constantly monitor the island while diplomats try to better our diplomatic position with both powers.What do you propose Senators?
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    Ave Senator Lvcivs Valerivs Scipio,

    What Hasent Carthage done to us? They Claim our Titles and Claim themselves "Great" people in which their ways are more barbaric than the gauls and Germans put togather i for one do not wish to see such a thing thrive.
    They also claim Carthage.. Is bigger better than Roma Herself! Is see them as Potential Enemys of Roma.
    Another thing.. There cannot be two 1st place Nations in the world.. No only one so these people being the Barbaric people who dont do their own bidding will soon look twords Rome herself and are city will suffer greatly if we allow such invasion to happen!

    I wont be freind with these people they have nothing for the roman people that we would be interested in. I wil not support better Diplomatic Relations. As for Sicily we should Support Syracusa in thier war.
    Delenda est Carthago!
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    Last edited by 68 Powers; October 14, 2007 at 09:19 AM.
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    You know,what he says is true;There can only be one nation that will rule the world,so sooner or later a conflict between our two peoples is inevitable...After all that was the vision that gave our ancestors the will to dominate all of Central Italy...
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    Ave Senators,

    What the Tribune and Consul speak of is true enough! There can only be one
    And if we dont act soon enough wwe will fall under Harsh rule like we did when the Etruscans became our kings.
    I for one will not let that happen i will fight against Carthage to retain me freedom and my country!

    Delenda est Carthago!

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    Carthage? Carthage, as I said, has its hands tied. It is probably going to beaten out of Iberia on its own, and Sicily, well, they have a good chance of being beaten there. We should look North, to the Alps, where we can defend against Germanians, Gauls, maybe even Gateans, Carthaginians, and Iberians! With Sicily, we simply have a blood bath and maybe some cash; With Italy itself, we have a defensive position, money (because there is more money there, coming from the more cities), and an open path to all the world!
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    Default Re: Cvria Ivlia, Consulate of Svlla/Constantinus

    As I said previously I do not wish to declare war on Carthage; I am just proposing that we should be careful with their expansion on Sicily in order to avoid any future situation we cannot afford to be in!I recommend caution Senators,and I am sure Cato says the same thing... As of the North,we have voted to remain in peace for 6 years to come;No war action will be tolerated till then!
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