Roma Surrectum's New Parthians!

[Kylan271]

I tried Parthia,ie TE Mod,RTW vanilla etc,found problems in taking settlements and fighting infantry battles. Can as suggestion use concept from Alex perhaps,Hyrcanian axe-infantry,as gives some sort of heavy unit to take walls and fight infantry battles better. Even sword,or say any sort of pre Sassanid empire unit ^_*.

[AqD]

I think I have seen the Hyrcanian axemen somewhere in the forum....

EDIT: oh I was wrong. No axe for that guy. But the takabara will be available to parthians right?

[Dafuge]

How often did the Parthians use unmounted missile troops in history?

Am I right in believing that once their Empire had expanded, for example, after 0BC that Parthia had a big empire and had enough money to have only mounted men?

[War lord]

How often did the Parthians use unmounted missile troops in history?

Am I right in believing that once their Empire had expanded, for example, after 0BC that Parthia had a big empire and had enough money to have only mounted men?

Well most Parthian armys were A of horse arcers and a small amount of Catas but it's unlikely they STOPPED using infatry.
Besides money isn't the only factor the catafracts had to play for there own gear and specal horses the training needed also would have limited the amount of horsemen you could have..

[Dafuge]

Hmm, interesting.

How did the Parthians handle sieges, would the starve out the enemy, or hire mercenaries?

[AqD]

Hmm, interesting.

How did the Parthians handle sieges, would the starve out the enemy, or hire mercenaries?

They're recorded to have use hellenistic mercenaries and levis (and got betrayed at least once) in early period. Also thureophoroi-like infantry and taratine cavalry still existed during Trajan's conquest; the median infantry were also mentioned in Antony's campaign.

[Dafuge]

Cool, thanks for the information.

[tone]

I think I have seen the Hyrcanian axemen somewhere in the forum....

EDIT: oh I was wrong. No axe for that guy. But the takabara will be available to parthians right?

Yes, they will, together with sparabara, median infantry, and a number of other AOR units including Palmyran phalangites and so on.

[Dafuge]

Oh great.

Ever since I read, 'Centurion' by Simon Scarrow, I've been wanting to have some Palmyran troops in my army. Will they be available as mercenaries or auxiliaries for Rome?

[tone]

Hmmm...can't remember whether they are or not. Great book though.

[Visarion]

Parthian General's Bodyguards are superb!

[SimpleCourage47]

Your user name should be necrothread nah just kidding.

[Wolfshead]

It will only be necro when RS II is out, as this is a preview and all.

[SimpleCourage47]

Had to spoil my fun

[Spoiler_Man]

No swordsmen units at all ! What about Immortals?

[torzsoktamas]

No swordsmen units at all ! What about Immortals?

The parthians were mainly a horse people,..similar to the steppe peoples,...so they use just minimal infatries,which are quite weak weak.If you will want to have good infantries for Parthia,you will have to rely on mercenaries.

And the Immortals were the elites of the Persian Empire,..in this timeframe they didn't existed,...not to mention that the parthians aren't persians.

So unfortunatly no immortals and no strong infantries for Parhtia.But you will definitely like those Cataprakts,and horse archers.

[Spoiler_Man]

Yes, torzsoktamas, I like them! Parthians are good, but Seleucid phalanx will tear them all apart, IF you will be smart enough for not allowing Parthian cavalry attack you from the flank. (OMG, I hope this sentence is correct... at least... understandable).
Nevertheless, they are good. I played for Parthia in many mods and vanilla, and it's a shame what they have no reliable infantry

[tone]

If they get to Palmyra and the regions around there, they can start recruiting some Palmyran phalangites.

[torzsoktamas]

If they get to Palmyra and the regions around there, they can start recruiting some Palmyran phalangites.

Yeah...and the persian sparabara's and median spearmans are quite reliable too.

[rory o'kane]

Yes, torzsoktamas, I like them! Parthians are good, but Seleucid phalanx will tear them all apart, IF you will be smart enough for not allowing Parthian cavalry attack you from the flank. (OMG, I hope this sentence is correct... at least... understandable).
Nevertheless, they are good. I played for Parthia in many mods and vanilla, and it's a shame what they have no reliable infantry

This is a more accurate representation of Parthia as we understand it during our timeframe. Compared to the Roman legions, Parthian infantry was nearly always at a disadvantage. Look at Carrhae, though - 35,000 Romans against 1,000 cataphracts and 10,000 horse archers... they cut the legions to pieces - only 5,000 or so made it back to Syria alive! Parthia's strength was always in its cavalry. They never were really good at sieges - it was only in the 3rd century AD, after the Parthians were replaced by the Sassanids, that they began to get really good at siegecraft (the siege of Dura Europos in the 250s AD is a good example).