View Poll Results: How much of Africa should be on the Campaign Map?

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Thread: Africa is in!!

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    Default Africa is in!!

    In this (http://pc.ign.com/articles/815/815233p1.html) article it says:

    "Empire: Total War tracks the increasing projection of European power throughout the world, from Spanish settlements in the Caribbean to French colonies in North Africa to English trading posts in India."

    So hopefuly quite a bit of africa will be in!

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    I think most people knew that Aftica is gonna be in, but the problem is, we don't know if it's the whole of Africa or just the northern parts... I can't imagine how we're supposed to get to India without having the whole of Africa in the game :/.

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    North africa has always been part of total war games centered about Europe. It was in MTW, RTW and M2. It could simply be referring to the same portion of north africa not the entire continent.

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    North africa has always been part of total war games centered about Europe. It was in MTW, RTW and M2. It could simply be referring to the same portion of north africa not the entire continent.
    But then how are we supposed to get to India? Eastern Asia isn't in the game either so... If it's a teleport mechanizm I'll be dissapointed.

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    Hm maybe buy adding something in the UI

    you know thes arrows in TW:M2 which allows armys to cross Water, you could do it in a similar way for Ships

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    huh? I don't quite understand you. It's not the same thing at all if you're talking about what I think you are.

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    Im afraid to say this, but if the whole of Africa is not in the game it may be gamebreaking enough for me to rather skip. Sorry, but you can imagine the frothie I had over America in M2.

    Then again, maybe an opportunity for a mod to fix it...
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    Maybe you can just funnel your ships to a place on the west coast of Africa and 3 turns later they appear on the east side. Sounds logical to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_of_Bavaria View Post
    huh? I don't quite understand you. It's not the same thing at all if you're talking about what I think you are.

    you know arrows e.g between ireland and England to make the Army cross water without boats

    So just draw a arrow from west coast africa in a "U"-Shape to the east side of africa and make the ship travel around africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodwig I. View Post
    you know arrows e.g between ireland and England to make the Army cross water without boats

    So just draw a arrow from west coast africa in a "U"-Shape to the east side of africa and make the ship travel around africa
    Ah I see, you were talking about landbridges. Except that if CA went to all the trouble of doing something like that (which would look horrible imo), they might as well just get all of Africa in and save themselves the trouble.
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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    French colonies in North Africa
    Strange,between 1700 and 1800,Algeria and Tunisia weren´t french colonies.

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    Strange,between 1700 and 1800,Algeria and Tunisia weren´t french colonies.
    Perhaps they refer to Cameroon and Ghana as "North Africa"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by selenius4tsd View Post
    Perhaps they refer to Cameroon and Ghana as "North Africa"?
    What have Cameroon and Ghana got to do with France?

    French involvement in North Africa (Algeria) didn't really start in earnest before 1830.

    A typo, or the end date is later than we thought and it is a game more about empire building and diplomacy and less about Marlborough/Frederick/Napoleon style warfare.

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    What have Cameroon and Ghana got to do with France?
    First one was French colonised, not so? Second one I meant to say Senegal, not Ghana, which was colonised anyway which makes this area important enough to include on the map nevertheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selenius4tsd View Post
    Perhaps they refer to Cameroon and Ghana as "North Africa"?
    Hmm, no.

    Cameroon :
    Portuguese sailors reached the coast in 1472.They noted an abundance of prawns in the Wouri river and named it Rio dos Camarões, Portuguese for "River of Prawns", and the phrase from which Cameroon is derived.
    It was a German colony after 1884.After the German defeat in the first world war,it was divided between The French and British (1919)

    Ghana (Golden Coast)
    The first contact was with the Portuguese - they buit S Jorge da Mina fortress or simple "Mina" (means "mine") where is nowadays the city of Elmina,and start shipping to Portugal huge quantities of gold contained int the aluvial sands around what is now Accra.
    Other european traders have been there,namely the Dutch.
    With the loss of Elmina in 1642 to the Dutch, the Portuguese left the Gold Coast permanently.
    When the Dutch withdrew in 1874, Britain made the Gold Coast a crown colony.




    Mina is the oldest european fortress south of Sahara.

    The true is,there are no French colonies in all Africa (Mahgreb,West or Equatorial Africa) during the period of the game.(1700-1800)

    Edit: Senegal:The Portuguese established some trading posts on the banks of the Senegal River in the 15th century,and the first French settlement was made at St.-Louis in 1659.
    French gained possession only in 1840 and made it part of French West Africa in 1895
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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    For all we know there may be seperate campagins, starting later when England had already seized south africa and most of Eastern Africa*wishful thinking*

    Or maybe perhaps they refer them as missions. maybe you will be ordered to take control of lets say algiers on turn 6 or something, who knows...

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    Quote Originally Posted by selenius4tsd View Post
    Im afraid to say this, but if the whole of Africa is not in the game it may be gamebreaking enough for me to rather skip. Sorry, but you can imagine the frothie I had over America in M2.

    Then again, maybe an opportunity for a mod to fix it...
    What, you mean you don't like CA inventing its own ridiculous geography? I mean, hey, it works so well with the history, why not do it with geography too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist Peace View Post
    What, you mean you don't like CA inventing its own ridiculous geography? I mean, hey, it works so well with the history, why not do it with geography too?
    There is a big difference between re-inventing history and inventing geography.
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    I don`t belive it`s that hard for THEM (CA) to include a bit more of africa,america and india.It would be stupid if they would make a teleport for the campaign map.

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    Default Re: Africa is in!!

    so how come people from cameroon speek french?

    and in anycase the statement of french colonists in north africa in its context is pretty ambiguous. i'd wait a lil longer till we get more then just tag lines and promo articles before there's a real consinsous on how much of africa will be in the game.
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