Originally Posted by
takverely
you cannt say that Seljuk bodyguards didnt hold bows, but they hold lances in this game. i think it would better if georgian bodyguard is malee
The Seljuk Bodyguard holds bows.
Code:
type bodyguard seljuks
dictionary bodyguard_seljuks ; bodyguard seljuks
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
accent Arabic
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier ghulams_elite_ha, 11, 0, 1
mount eastern armoured horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5, 9, arrow_ha_uh, 150, 30, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 25, 1 ;S
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 6, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 30, 1
Firstly, I repeadetly say that it's a great mod and by asking a change I'm just asking for a small favour. There are no doubts about the great work and huge effort by team, they are also great.
What I try to say has nothing to do with team, it's about one specific unit: there were elite Georgian units that carried bows with them, like heavy monaspa cavalry and tadzreuli cavalry units, as tadz says. I'm talkin about those 15-20 chosen cavalrymen who accompanied royal family members on the battlefield, they were lancers.
And it's not even about being better that other bodyguards. All throught history if Georgian general engaged fight with his bodyguards, it was with a lance charge. There are numerous battles showing this, but I can't find a single battle, where general with his bodyguards peppered enemy with arrows and after that engaged foe. Most famous battles of Didgori, Basiani, Dmanisi - all saw action by lance charge. There were elite units that accompanied general in campaigns, but the bodyguard unit itself was not a ranged unit.
Again, we're not asking to make them stronger compared to others, just asking to make them the way they were.
The Seljuks are noted as carrying lance, sword or mace to charge against their enemies after the initial battle of archery,a and it is noted that in really no battle would Seljuk horse archery do all the fighting - a charge was always necessary. But this does not mean that Seljuk Askaris were most famous for the charged lance, or that the bodyguard of the Sultan was only a shock cavalrymen.
And I can quote where you guys were asking to make them stronger, not the way they were. It's their lethality which is the issue, not the weapon they wield.
but this bows are useless, they cannt kill enemy bodyguards. and why do they need these bows? t
i would not say anithing if these arrows were effective agains enemy bodyguards but they are useless. they cannot kill enemie bodyguards with arrows
The issue of them bearing lances is brought up because lances are seen as more lethal to enemy bodyguards, as is the use of AP weaponry. Lethality is something we can and will address with the unit - No bodyguard is meant to be a superman, but no bodyguard is meant to be useless. Again, I suggest you try the bodyguards who are pitiful compared to the Monaspa - Sindh, Oman, the cumans all have really weak bodyguards. And while we are willing to listen to requests and people are free to air them, we are not going to tolerate or give into aggressive demands which won't take no for an answer.
It's fine to request changes, but we are not going to change this. We are going to fix the superhero nature of some of the bodyguards, however. This isn't ego, so much as it is refusing to be bullied into being slaves to whatever whim some people have. The one thing you can really do to harm any suggestion to us is to really badger or demand it from us ceaselessly. If there was any inclination to change the weaponry of the Georgian Bodyguard, it's much less there after all of this.
If we simply followed whatever demands the public threw at us without weighing them against the nature of the mod, this mod wouldn't even have Georgia or the Middle East - It'd just be another trip through Medieval Europe.