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    Who do you think the greatest politicians are from any time period, from early history up until today?

    Heres my pick:

    Frederick the Great
    Nicolo Machiavelli
    Harry Truman
    Otto von Bismarck
    Ramesses II

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    aaron burr

    he knew how to deal with the opposition eh he he he





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    FDR

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    Augustus.
    Machiavelli.

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    Churchill, Indira Gandhi, FDR, Hitler, Caesar, Sulla, etc.

    I am talking about politicians who knew to achieve their goals. I m not trying to glorify u & i believe no1 would know Indira Gandhi ... she was the Indian PM who turned the 1971 war into such a success for Bangladesh & India with strategic planning & great political manuevers.

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    the one you don't notice, who maintains the status quo and then retires after 20 years to collect a fat pension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikephoros II Phokas View Post
    the one you don't notice, who maintains the status quo and then retires after 20 years to collect a fat pension.
    Well ith that argument in mind I'd have to say Metternich.
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    I am talking about politicians who knew to achieve their goals. I m not trying to glorify u & i believe no1 would know Indira Gandhi ... she was the Indian PM who turned the 1971 war into such a success for Bangladesh & India with strategic planning & great political manuevers.
    However, she did nothing to prevent Bangladesh from turning into a **** hole.

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    Bismarck, Adenauer, Cardinaux Richelieu et Mazarin, Louis XIV.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Would I offend anyone if I said Hitler? I am Jewish btw, don't call me anti semitic, but no other has been able to push such a crazy agenda and achieve the kind of support Hitler has.

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    Bismark
    Hitler - Turned a poor ass country into the most economicly powerful in europe, can't agree with the bad parts, but the good parts were awsome
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    Agustus Ceazar
    Clinton - Did absolutely nothing to upset me, the best kind of politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Bismark
    Hitler - Turned a poor ass country into the most economicly powerful in europe, can't agree with the bad parts, but the good parts were awsome
    Queen Elisabeth 1
    Agustus Ceazar
    Clinton - Did absolutely nothing to upset me, the best kind of politician.
    The third reich was a skeleton economy... when the war was over the mark was so inflated they printed money on only one side of the paper because the ink was more valuable than the currency. Hitler didn't do anything good for Germany, all deception and propaganda.

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    Hitler's economic theories were highly unsound. He boosted the economy through incredibly reckless deficit spending in the hopes that his gamble would pay off and the world would take a few steps backwards (both socially and economically) and reinstate slavery and feudalism as a means of keeping Germany afloat.
    Calvin Coolidge gets my vote for America's best president, the closest this nation has had to a true pro business libertarian.





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    Dead or imprisoned politicians are the best ones.

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    Churchill.

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    Churchill was seen as a rabid extremist for a large chunk of his career, and it is precisely due to that that he was often marginalized, especially between the time he was forced to take the blame for Gallipoli in 1915 and his appointment as prime minister during WWII. Notice that he lost office as soon as the war was over, this being due to the fact that people need harsh, strong and uniting leaders during wartime, but during peacetime hardly ever does everyone more or less agree on the goals the country should set.
    He was, of course, a great man.





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    The greatest? Blatantly Augustus. Quite simply put, his seizure of power was masterful. Not without flaws, but clearly one of the greatest political careers in history. Even if I don't agree much with what he did
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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat View Post
    Churchill was seen as a rabid extremist for a large chunk of his career, and it is precisely due to that that he was often marginalized, especially between the time he was forced to take the blame for Gallipoli in 1915 and his appointment as prime minister during WWII. Notice that he lost office as soon as the war was over, this being due to the fact that people need harsh, strong and uniting leaders during wartime, but during peacetime hardly ever does everyone more or less agree on the goals the country should set.
    He was, of course, a great man.
    War is peace.

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    Not quite, in fact the two are opposite concepts.
    And the leadership skills they require are vastly different.





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    Octavian augustus
    Thatcher
    Heath
    Ferdinand and Isabella

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