What's up with the HRE?

**ajm317** · August 03, 2007, 02:18 PM

In my game currently the emperor of the HRE is the king of Portugal.

But...Portugal isn't a even a MEMBER of the HRE.

Furthermore I AM a member, I have 200 relations with one of the electors, and they're voting for Portugal (with whom their relations are like 65.)

I don't think I understand this.

**Woad-Warrier** · August 03, 2007, 04:17 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Do they have a province inside the empire?

**lila-laune-bär** · August 03, 2007, 06:09 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_X_of_Castile

It's historical. Alfonso X of Castile was elected Holy Roman Emperor but never even touched the soil of the HRE.
The only prerequisite is, if I recall correctly, that one must be Christian to be elected Holy Roman Emperor. There is some odd chance, that even Ethiopia gets elected as Emperor. It was often posted as a bug on the paradox forums, but in fact it isn't.

edit: Another example would be this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...rl_of_Cornwall

Even an English got elected as Emperor.

**ajm317** · August 03, 2007, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by lila-laune-bär

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_X_of_Castile

It's historical. Alfonso X of Castile was elected Holy Roman Emperor but never even touched the soil of the HRE.
The only prerequisite is, if I recall correctly, that one must be Christian to be elected Holy Roman Emperor. There is some odd chance, that even Ethiopia gets elected as Emperor. It was often posted as a bug on the paradox forums, but in fact it isn't.

edit: Another example would be this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...rl_of_Cornwall

Even an English got elected as Emperor.

Hmm...that's a little odd, crazy Germans.

Ok, so what determines who a country votes for? Because I can never get them to vote for me, even with a low rep, a high prestige and good relations.

**lila-laune-bär** · August 04, 2007, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by ajm317

Hmm...that's a little odd, crazy Germans.

Ok, so what determines who a country votes for? Because I can never get them to vote for me, even with a low rep, a high prestige and good relations.

As you mentioned, low rep, high prestige and good relations matter. Vassalage matters as well.
Alliances and wars together against someone might also play a role.

**Edelward** · August 11, 2007, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by ajm317

Hmm...that's a little odd, crazy Germans.

HRE wasn't intended as German Empire but later became assisted with them it is quite a number of nationalities which were in it in different eras

**ajm317** · August 15, 2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Edelward

HRE wasn't intended as German Empire but later became assisted with them it is quite a number of nationalities which were in it in different eras

Uh...yes, but that wasn't my point.

**Hells Bells** · August 16, 2007, 10:01 PM

shouldnt it be a requirement that the hre be catholic?

**ajm317** · August 17, 2007, 10:44 AM

Evidently it's not. People have reported the ruler of Ethiopia getting elected.

I believe there may have been some protestant emperors in the empires later years anyway.

**Ulf** · August 23, 2007, 03:10 PM

Another question concerning the HRE:
When I go to the map showing the provinces included in the HRE, why are some of them a bright green color and some a darker green? are the bright green ones the elector states?

**Atterdag** · August 23, 2007, 04:35 PM

I've been wondering about that too.

In my beginner's game as Portugal I've had 5 rulers in a row named Holy Roman Emperor. Pretty fitting as I hold the entire Italian peninsular under my rule. Either as vassals or as my own provinces.

**lila-laune-bär** · August 25, 2007, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ulf

Another question concerning the HRE:
When I go to the map showing the provinces included in the HRE, why are some of them a bright green color and some a darker green? are the bright green ones the elector states?

Yup, they are.