Brothels

[Chlodwig I.]

I expirienced often that Generals become useless Governours
with lowerde taxes, tradeincome, farming, high unrest etc.
I shouldn't build anymore brothels or taverns

[Wheem]

You could always mod the export_descr_character_traits.txt and export_descr_ancillaries.txt files (you'd need to unpack them if you haven't already).

You can change the building level needed to get the traits/ancillaries, lower the chances of getting them, or remove it all together. I've done some fairly minor changes myself, but not related to the Brothel line of buildings; it's quite easy to do.

[Germanicus75]

I build brothels and inns in every settlement by default, and never experienced much problem so far

[TW_ruler]

who cares, it all comes to how good YOU are on the battlefield not your general

Cannot agree here friend, if your general has really bad traits that affect his men’s moral on the battlefield you’ll be in trouble going up against say an enemy general with high dread. Watch your men rout quickly. Doesn’t matter how good you are on the battlefield when you have a clown for a general and your men are running in terror.

[pat the magnificent]

Well maybe they have so much women that they get bored and... experiment.

i hope that isn't first hand experience. lol

[Seleucus I Nicator]

You could solve this by limiting the construction of them to a few settlements only and, as another member said, not garrison family members and generals in cities where you have brothels.

[TW_ruler]

Well Crazyj clearly this is a game so a couple of brothels and your done and don’t build them in these massive cities you like so much. Because it’s a game I believe all my cities have taverns just not the kind you can build spies and assassins in so all my cities have inns and places to drink these are privately owned and operated and do not cause problems (It’s called roll playing) they also have restaurants and pet shops and barbers and … you get the point. As for the “it’s to far for my spy or assassin to go” not a problem for me I always have two or three just roaming around looking at places I cannot see. (FOW) I agree with you 100% on the trait thing going on with generals no augment from me it’s all true. Other than that who the hell has the money to upgrade everything on the list in every city unless you’re cheating. I have 68 territories with England you think my building tree is clean on every territory I own? You got to be cheating if that’s what is going on. You must also think with 68 territories you must have 68 generals stationed as governors … no like I said earlier have a lot of cities that make excellent money without a governor. Advice, relax enjoy the game and because it’s a game work with the game mechanics’. If the designers felt this is what this building set will do good or bad than work with it and find out the secrets on how to manipulate the mechanics’ without cheating to do so. If you’re not cheating I apologize up front to you, just sounds like it when I read “And really, I hate how I usually build every building in the tree before the city can upgrade, except for that damn brothel icon which just stays there in an otherwise cleaned out building window...taunting me,”
Sounds like money cheat going on, because you don’t have to build every building to upgrade. And if you’re cheating and complaining that’s really lame. Don’t cheat it ruins the game. Apology if your not but really sounds so.

[crazyj]

I'd rather die than cheat in a TW game. I'm just that good buddy.

[Kylan271]

Oh ayyy I cheat..lol,but I have family so no time as I wish to drag out the game or "She who must not be named"(aka "SHE" movie) will cut something off. My keyboard fingers that is..heh. And I do AD&D rpg games also..so too much to do.. *_* If you have family you'll understand.

As for brothels you have to check the 'triggers' for the various ill traits and see what you can do,and yes I get heaps of bad traits,but there are exploits to rebuild your reputation by creating lots of churches and priests(piety)or crusading(click on ond off repeatably on your general's 'Join Crusade' icon until you reach "Saint" as the computer thinks you have done multiple crusades heh and thus high Chivalry!!!). This helps balance things.

Brothels help if you are in area of opposing faith,ie catholic in Moslem predominant province as they raise the happiness level so it helps.

[Don in the North]

i too, am very selective over where i recruit spies and assassins due to the negative trait influx i experience.
its never ending and it saddens me greatly.
so to counter i use generals recruited from castles (darthmod) as the govenors of the 3-4 cities i use for spies and assassins.
obviously, i absolutely churn out the spies and assassins individuallly so as to trigger the respective guild and hopefully get at least a masters in 2 of the 4 cities or maybe 2 hqs if im lucky.

i try to edit the traits and stuff where i can, but honestly i shouldnt have to

the probobility , by default should be extremely low in the cases of homosexuality traits. people were born with respective brain patterns which dictate their sexuality, they dont get it from being party animals or social drinkers.

[Tiwaz]

I run my games with brothels and inns aplenty. Most of my generals are anyway needed out there leading armies.

This far haven't had much problems. Though I admit that having some questionable traits on else perfectly good general is irking, there are often ways to counter some of these. (if general has problems with morale penalties etc I give them few softer targets to chew and slaughter and hope that it will fix some of them)

[Evolution]

It keeps my people happy, and thats all that matters in the end ^^. Now raise the tax to VERY HIGH for 17 turns

[homefry]

Other than that who the hell has the money to upgrade everything on the list in every city unless you’re cheating. I have 68 territories with England you think my building tree is clean on every territory I own? You got to be cheating if that’s what is going on.

With 68 territories you should have enough money to constantly be building in every settlement.

The only thing stopping me from building everthing is time.

Inns and Taverns are my main buildings I use to increase public order (after I built roads, trade, military buildings) My fighting generals are constantly increasing territory, so they're never in a settlement for too long. The other ones I keep as governers just stay in cities until they start costing me more moeny (through decreased trade or increased construction cost) and when that happens they become rebel hunters.

[pontypool]

i cant even find that file your supposed to modify to stop your govenors becoming gay or drunk because of brothels and inns? where is it?

[Don in the North]

gotta unpack the directry mate, i had to do this once but ive since forgotten how.

i think its a file you download, im sure someone else will point you in right direction soon enough

[pontypool]

i see the download section but im still not sure what i need?

[Don in the North]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2192759

goto the tools folder in m2tw directry and double click that unpacker_all bat.
should fix you up quicksmart