Shi'a Faction

**javanmard** · June 11, 2007, 05:46 PM

I think this project is amazing BUT please do create a Shi'a faction such as the Nizaris. If king phillipe vi of Frace shut Paris down in 1328 out of fear from them I think they do at least deserve a faction. If you need any help on them I am here at your disposal as I happen to specialise in Ismailism. Thanks. But please do it.

**Ahiga** · June 11, 2007, 06:14 PM

They were a very strong power. But it was a political power, without the sort of armies or conquests which are required for any and all factions. It's a shame we cannot represent them as a political presence, but it would be a greater shame to relegate them to the role of a conquering power rather than a subtle, political one. The one thing worse than having no Ismali Nizaris would be to have them sending armies of fanatics against the Rum turks, or the Rajputs, conquering cities like a military power.

**~~Miraj~~** · June 11, 2007, 06:16 PM

Hi Javanmard, welcome to the BC forums.

please do create a Shi'a faction such as the Nizaris

They are an interesting group no doubt. But they are not really a nation or even a minor kingdom. The only real shiite state was the Fatimids and a couple of smaller emirates. And the Fatimids are not in this mods so sadly there is really no shiite faction to add. If you can provide some sources and info it'd be much appreciated.

If king phillipe vi of Frace shut Paris down in 1328 out of fear from them I think they do at least deserve a faction.

I'm sorry, but I really doubt that their were Nizaris hanging around Paris in 1328. I would love to see some evidence of this.

Thanks
MIRAGE

**javanmard** · June 11, 2007, 06:35 PM

If that's so could you at least make the Timurids playable as they have Shi'a units? Or even better extend the time frame to the appearance of the Safavis, that would actually be amazing. Because let's be frank what I really want is the Safavi vs Ottoman thing!

**The Mongol** · June 11, 2007, 08:22 PM

Just let the mod get it's first version done at least, the work they're doing is completely amazing.

They can't cater to everyone.

**Ahiga** · June 11, 2007, 11:16 PM

Sadly, the Timurids will be unplayable. Would that we make them playable - I wish we could, but it's impossible given the game engine to do so.

However, there may end up being a shi'ite Muslim Faction in the Mod. The Soomro Dynasty of Sindh apparently were Ismaili Muslims, and this is one faction that is being taken under consideration for a future update. We'll have to see if it's possible to add another religion (It may be that we have reached our limit), and if the Sindh Kingdom makes the cut

**Boztorgai_Khan** · June 12, 2007, 07:36 AM

Timurids was Sunnite-Muslim..

The Timurids, self-designated Gurgan, Gurkhan, Gurkānī or Kurkhan, were a Sunni Muslim dynasty of originally Mongolian descent, established by the Central Asian warlord Timur. At its zenith, the Timurid Empire included the whole of Central Asia, Iran and modern Afghanistan, as well as large parts of Mesopotamia and Caucasus.

**Haqiq** · June 15, 2007, 11:20 AM

Timurid not playable? Damn. I already planing a Elephant charge. Add a Rhino on them also so they could massacre my army. Zirafe will do.

**teh.frickin.pope** · June 17, 2007, 07:15 PM

Need elephants? Then the Rajput States have what you need.

**Sejanus** · June 21, 2007, 04:56 PM

Will there at least be Shi'ism as a religion? Like the way there's different levels of Orthodox, Catholic, and whatnot in the regions in Europe?

**~~Miraj~~** · June 21, 2007, 04:58 PM

Nope, no shiism. We can only add a religion if there is a faction that uses it. And unfortunately for the year 1174 the last shiite state (the fatimids) were already deposed.