IRISH Character Names for Kingdoms

**finneys13** · June 05, 2007, 06:11 AM

Start year is 1258

Faction: Ireland
Status: Completed
Total Names: 291
Authors: finneys13

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The following is a modified Irish names list, which is good for a mod starting from 1000 to 1200 or so, open to all:

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**finneys13** · June 05, 2007, 06:59 AM

To start us off, 89 male and 24 female names from here

The forenames are from 1250 to 1350, can expand the range if needed.

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In a preview of Kingdoms, CA said the Irish king was Brian O'Connor, who, in proper CA style, doesn't seemed to have existed in 1258. A good look on wiki tells me it was Brian Ua Neill who was High King from 1258 to 1260 and I suppose Ulster too, while of course the O'Conors were the Kings of Connacht, for interests sake, it was Aedh mac Felim Ua Conchobair who was the King of Connacht in 1258.

Now why would they call the king Brian O'Connor, when the true king was Brian O'Neill, hardly a difficult or rare name?

**Antagonist** · June 05, 2007, 09:54 AM

In a preview of Kingdoms, CA said the Irish king was Brian O'Connor, who, in proper CA style, doesn't seemed to have existed in 1258. A good look on wiki tells me it was Brian Ua Neill who was High King from 1258 to 1260 and I suppose Ulster too, while of course the O'Conors were the Kings of Connacht, for interests sake, it was Aedh mac Felim Ua Conchobair who was the King of Connacht in 1258.

Now why would they call the king Brian O'Connor, when the true king was Brian O'Neill, hardly a difficult or rare name?

I wondered about that too. The Ui Conchobair (O'Connor) family are still around in 1250 in Connacht, which is at this point engaged in a power-struggle with the Norman Burke family IIRC. They defeat the Burkes several times in the 1270's but never reclaim the whole island or anything. Brian Ua Neill was made High-King around this time as you say and he would be the obvious choice, though he was defeated at the Battle of Downpatrick a few years later. Perhaps they have O'Connor in order to emphasise a continuity with the the pre-Norman monarchy (Ruadri Ua Conchobair signed the Treaty of Windsor in 1175, a provision of which meant he basically couldn't call himself King of Ireland anymore, though only Leinster was actually ceded to Henry II. Note that it was "King of Ireland" though, the last High Kings certainly thought of themselves as monarchs in the European sense, this vision of pre-Norman Ireland as tribal anarchy with hundreds of petty tribal kings is very old-fashioned)

Your name-list looks good, names aren't really my specialty but if I come across something I'll try and point it out.

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**finneys13** · June 05, 2007, 10:06 AM

Good then, will work on making the surnames when I get a chance, will be over twice as many surnames as forenames for the Irish.

**finneys13** · June 08, 2007, 06:17 AM

Done

**finneys13** · June 11, 2007, 11:18 AM

The following is a modified Irish names list, which is good for a mod starting from 1000 to 1200 or so, open to all:

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**deRougemont** · June 11, 2007, 02:05 PM

Those Irish names look great. :-)

**AnCeallach** · June 14, 2007, 05:56 PM

Ua? I might be wrong but i thought it was Ó as in from, can also be Ui (fada), is Ua just a different spelling?

**finneys13** · June 14, 2007, 06:00 PM

Ua is the old form of Ó, Uí refers to a greater clann again, not needed or used when talking about individuals.

**Antagonist** · June 16, 2007, 02:54 PM

Excellent work as usual finneys

Just one further musing - what about the Hiberno-Normans? I've a feeling CA will end up ignoring them (eg they'll just be "English" with the Irish exclusively Gaelic) so in practice it won't matter, but I'd just note more for anyone else using this namelist for a mod or whatever that the Normans in Ireland while still largely loyal to England in 1250, would grow quite a bit more estranged from England over the time period and also a lot more "native" in character (though they never totally threw their lot in with the natives until the 17th Century)

Not that there's really anything to do about that in the context of Kingdoms I guess, I'd just love to see an indepedent Hiberno-Norman faction in a mod at some point, by the 15th or 16th Century their roster would be a truly unique hybrid. sigh.

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**finneys13** · June 16, 2007, 03:21 PM

Yeah, with the way Kingdoms should play, we only need to think about the Gaelic Irish I think, and their names.

And then with the other list, it is made for 1080, when there were no Normans.

**Rabain** · September 21, 2007, 08:34 AM

Here are some more Irish names, I've tried to stick to more gaelic sounding names and removed the ones that sound like gaelicised english. I just thought the ladies deserved more names especially!

Code:

Girls 		Boys 
Ághaistín 	Aichlinn 
Aifric 		Ailill 
Aignéis 		Amhlaoibh 
Ailbhe 		Aodh 
Ailidh 		Aodhfin 
Ailís 		Árdal 
Ailíse 		Bairrfhionn 
Aimilíona 		Bairtleméad 
Áine 		Beacán 
Aithne 		Beartlaidh 
Alastríona 	Bréanainn 
Annstás 		Cailean 
Aodhnait 		Cairbre 
Aoibheann 	Caoimhghin 
Aoife 		Caolán 
Attracta 		Cathaoir 
Báb 		Cearbhall 
Baibín 		Cinnéide 
Báirbre 		Coinneach 
Bébhinn 		Coireall 
Bláthnaid 	Comhghan 
Bríghid 		Críostóir 
Caitlin 		Cú Uladh 
Caitrín 		Cúmheá 
Caoilfhionn 	Daibhéid 
Caoimhe 		Dáire 
Ciannait 		Dáithí 
Damhnait 	Damhlaic 
Dearbháil 	Diarmaid 
Doireann 		Dónal 
Éadaoin 		Donnchadh 
Edana 		Dubhán 
Eibhilín 		Eadoin 
Eileánóir 		Earnán 
Eilís 		Éibhear 
Eimíle 		Éimhin 
Eithne 		Énán 
Eriu		Eóin Baiste 
Fainche 		Faolán 
Fianait 		Finghin 
Fiona 		Fionan 
Fionnuala 	Fionnbharr 
Gormghlaith 	Garbhán 
Gráinne 		Gearóid 
Íde 		Giolla Bhríghde 
Labhaoise 	Giolla Chríost 
Lasairíona 	Giolla Dhé 
Luighseach 	Glaisne 
Máda 		Gofraidh 
Maeve 		Iarfhlaith 
Maille 		Íoseph 
Máire 		Labhrás 
Mael Muire	Lughaidh 
Máiréad 		Maeleachlainn 
Mairsil 		Maitiú 
Mallaidh 		Maolruadhan 
Meadghbh 	Meilseoir 
Mór 		Muireadhach 
Muireann 	Naomhan 
Muirgheal 	Neasán 
Niamh 		Odhrán 
Odharnait 	Oilibhéar 
Oilbhe 		Oistin 
Orghlaith 	Rodhlann 
Ornóra 		Ruaidhri 
Rigru Roisclethan 	Séafra 
Ríoghnach 	Searbhreathach 
Riomthach 	Séarlas 
Róisin		Sweeney 
Sadhbh 		Tadhg 
Medb		Téadóir 
Séarlait 		Tiarchnach 
Seosaimhthín 	Uaine 
Síle 		Uileog 
Sinéad 		Uinseann 
Siobhán 		Úistean 
Sláine 		
Toiréasa 		
Ula 		
Úna