My Byzantine Unit, need help

[hydra]

Hey again! after getting my Greek problems solved i moved onto a different step, creating new units. I've found a tutorial;

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=75706

but it for some reason does not do what the guy said, i've done step by step and tried multiple folders but nothing. Below i've included a Battle_model (something like that) of how the unit is meant to look like, i dont understand 3/4 of whats in it so i just followed with the instructions. Anyway, any idea why my unit isnt appearing in custom battles??

The must be something missing since they dont appear in custom battles, and i have no clue what.

11 GR_Dragoons
1 4 
53 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_lod0.mesh 121
53 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_lod1.mesh 900
53 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_lod2.mesh 2500
53 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_lod3.mesh 6400
1 
9 byzantium
79 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/textures/rn_half_3q_plate_byzantium.texture
76 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/textures/rn_half_3q_plate_normal.texture
41 unit_sprites/byzantium_Reiters_sprite.spr
1 
9 byzantium 65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_hre_norm.texture 0
1 
5 Horse
14 MTW2_HR_Pistol 
13 MTW2_HR_Spear 1 
22 MTW2_HR_Pistol_Primary 1 
21 MTW2_HR_spear_Primary 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
11 reiters_ug1 1 4 57 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
57 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_ug1_lod1.mesh 900
57 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500
57 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/reiters_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
1 
9 byzantium
79 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/textures/rn_half_3q_plate_byzantium.texture
76 unit_models/_Units/RN_Half_3Q_Plate/textures/rn_half_3q_plate_normal.texture
45 unit_sprites/byzantium_Reiters_ug1_sprite.spr
1 
9 byzantium
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_hre_norm.texture 0
1 
5 Horse
14 MTW2_HR_Pistol
13 MTW2_HR_Spear 1
22 MTW2_HR_Pistol_Primary 1
21 MTW2_HR_spear_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Ty peeps

[Lusted]

Have you added in an entry in export_descr_unit.txt? Does the rn_half_3q_plate_byzantium.texture exist?

[hydra]

Yes I have, texture is in correct folder, and export_descr_unit has the correct info. Yet my unit does not appear.

Here is the EDU

type             GR_Dragoons
dictionary       GR_Dragoons      ; Dragoons
category         cavalry
class            missile
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner holy      crusade_cavalry
soldier          GR_Dragoons, 32, 0, 1
mount            eastern armoured horse
mount_effect     elephant -4, camel -4
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, cantabrian_circle, gunpowder_unit, start_not_skirmishing, guncavalry
formation        2, 4.4, 3, 6, 4, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         16, 3, musket_bullet, 180, 20, missile, missile_gunpowder, piercing, none, musket_shot_set, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    ap
stat_sec         11, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  7, 6, 0, metal
;stat_armour_ex   7, 8, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        5
stat_ground      0, -2, -4, 0
stat_mental      9, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 920, 250, 120, 95, 920, 4, 230
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models GR_Dragoons, GR_Dragoons_ug1
ownership        byzantium
era 2            byzantium
;unit_info        11, 20, 13

Ohh and by the not appearing i mean the icon of the unit, its created and its in the correct folder called #gr_dragoons

[Lusted]

So does it not appear on the battle map, or not appear in custom battle unit selection screen?

And this:

11 reiters_ug1

Should be:

15 GR_dragoons_ug1

Also have you increased the number at the top of the battle_models.modelsdb file?

[Ralendil]

...

have you put in Medieval Total war\YOUR MOD PATH\data\ui\units the card for this unit (named #GR_Dragoons.tga)?

if no, you should see this unit as a peasant wearing a black tunic.

only thing I can think about, at this stage

[hydra]

Hehe you guys are amazing, fast replies

Relendil to answer your question im doing all of this in m2tw/data folder, not my mod folder, to open the game im not using the mod batch file but normal m2tw.exe .. so im basically not opening the mod, just want to see if its working on normal map.

Hi Lusted,

I found that mistake there too However forgot to update the post with new modeldb . The problem remained, however i did not change anything at the top? all i did was add this modeldb as in first post. And to answer your first question it dont appear in selection.

[Lusted]

Yeah there is a number at the top of the modeldb file, 701 in vanilla, that is the total of the number of entries. You need to change that number to reflect the entries you've added in.

And im hoping your using the file first command.

[hydra]

I havnt changed the top 701. By entries do you mean how many lines I add? or how many of those meshes?

And im using a normal medieval2.exe to open game.

[Lusted]

I havnt changed the top 701. By entries do you mean how many lines I add? or how many of those meshes?

For instance gr_dragoons and all the line sunder it is 1 entry. So you need to add 2 to the top number.

And im using a normal medieval2.exe to open game.

So im guessing your unit doesn't even show up in custom battles then.

[hydra]

Ahh i see, and yes it doesnt Not even the icon. Which is why i cant even see my unit in battle mode.

[Lusted]

You need to use the file first command for modified files in the main data folder to take effect.

Add the following to medieval2.preference.cfg:

[io]

file_first = true

[hydra]

EDIT: OK DONE! My unit appears in Custom Battle

Now, once i went into battle i got a crash to desktop. before it did i got a glimpse and the screen looked really dark.

[Lusted]

Then set the file to read only.

[hydra]

My system.log only gives me this error:

15:03:36.000 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

Could that be a mistake with a model file?

[Lusted]

Yes it could. Have you followed my adivce and changed the 701 to 703? And do those sprites actually exist?

[Ralendil]

My system.log only gives me this error:

15:03:36.000 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

Could that be a mistake with a model file?

I don't think you made a big mistake, or you would crash at the loading screen of 'your mod'. But a little mistake in modeldb can provoke that.

But, you could have put the texture at a bad place.

And Lusted is right, check the sprites. Here it can provoke a crash when you load a battle (same with attachments)

[hydra]

Nicely spotted, seems without seeing you can spot what i do and dont have. There are no sprites, ill have a close look what sprites actually are, and see what i can make of it.

[Ralendil]

Nicely spotted, seems without seeing you can spot what i do and dont have. There are no sprites, ill have a close look what sprites actually are, and see what i can make of it.

check here

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97254

[hydra]

Ill try this tutorial

Im stuck on this step;

"4) run the game with this command line (or add to a config): --misc.bypass_sprite_script"

Any ideas

[Ralendil]

Ill try this tutorial

Im stuck on this step;

"4) run the game with this command line (or add to a config): --misc.bypass_sprite_script"

Any ideas

you need to create a bat file with that inside:
medieval2.exe --misc.bypass_sprite_script
OR
medieval2.exe --misc.bypass_sprite_script @YOUR MOD.cfg