Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 29

Thread: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced? And how do YOU pronounce it?

  1. #1
    The Good's Avatar The Man Machine
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    California, U.S.A.
    Posts
    5,761
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Icon14 How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced? And how do YOU pronounce it?

    I have had this on my mind for a week now, how should the name "Leonidas" (King Leonidas, the one who fought against Xerxes in the Battle of Thermopylae. Leonidas is also from "300" the movie) be pronounced?

    I have a theory that the correct Ancient Greek pronunciation of Leonidas is like this: "Lee-Oh-Need-Us", or an alternate would be "Lay-Oh-Need-Us."


    What do you think of that pronunciation of Leonidas? I commonly hear it as "Lee-Oh-Nide-Us", or "Lee-Oh-Ny-Dus", and I felt that it wasn't the right way to say it.

  2. #2
    PooFoo's Avatar Yoda
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    647
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    leh-o-knee-das

  3. #3
    HunterKYA's Avatar Sagittarius
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Down South
    Posts
    3,417
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Lee-oh-nie-das

  4. #4
    Phoebus's Avatar εις οιωνος αριστος...
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bactria and Sogdiana
    Posts
    2,141
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    The correct Hellenic pronounciation is le-oh-KNEE-thas. The last syllable would be a "das" instead of a "thas" in the anglicized version.



  5. #5
    Darth Caesar's Avatar Hastatas Prior
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    687
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    mmmm, english nazis..lol, I say it "leo-ny-das"


  6. #6
    Curtana's Avatar Chinen
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Engerland
    Posts
    475
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Sloooooooooooowly

    Lay on e dass
    Last edited by Curtana; May 24, 2007 at 04:27 AM.
    I don't drink water fish **** in it. W.C. Fields

    I always advise people never to give advice. P.G. Wodehouse

  7. #7
    Indefinitely Banned
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Vatican City
    Posts
    4,753
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Lay-on-idus is the way Paul Cartledge the Greek Historian pronounces it

  8. #8
    Phoebus's Avatar εις οιωνος αριστος...
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bactria and Sogdiana
    Posts
    2,141
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Paul Cartledge means well, but he is by no means perfect.



  9. #9
    William the Bastard's Avatar Invictus Maneo
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Camulodunum
    Posts
    3,351
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    It appears that the Americanisation of the name is with a "n-eye" where as we in Blighty use "ni". Good job Monty Python was British as the knights who say "n-eye" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

  10. #10
    Dimitri The Hellene's Avatar Murakawa
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    24
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Leonithas.

    Means "I've seen a Lion" like alot of Ancient Greek names mean something.
    Last edited by Dimitri The Hellene; August 14, 2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason: Mixed up something.

  11. #11
    Leonidas The Lion's Avatar Until we win! Or die.
    Citizen Content Emeritus

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    UK/Der Freistaat Griechenland
    Posts
    10,041
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    LEO-NEE-THAS thatis in the Greek pronunciation.

    But I just like plain and simple Λεωνἰδας.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jom View Post
    When using the stick and carrot approach, remember that what you have to do is shove the carrot up their arse and then beat them with the stick.
    Check out my YouTube Channel here
    Under The Patronage Of jimkatalanos
    Patron Of
    Murfios,
    Bolkonsky and DekuTrash


  12. #12
    Dimitri The Hellene's Avatar Murakawa
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    24
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Let me just add that i dont like 300,i hate the History rape and i feel sorry for the Persians as it makes them look like mutants which isnt true,and that coming from a Greek.

  13. #13
    Leonidas The Lion's Avatar Until we win! Or die.
    Citizen Content Emeritus

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    UK/Der Freistaat Griechenland
    Posts
    10,041
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Off Topic: Where in history did it say that ephialtis was a hunchback?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jom View Post
    When using the stick and carrot approach, remember that what you have to do is shove the carrot up their arse and then beat them with the stick.
    Check out my YouTube Channel here
    Under The Patronage Of jimkatalanos
    Patron Of
    Murfios,
    Bolkonsky and DekuTrash


  14. #14
    Phoebus's Avatar εις οιωνος αριστος...
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Bactria and Sogdiana
    Posts
    2,141
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    His name does not mean "I've seen a lion." The ancient Hellenic (Doric, in this case, IIRC) -idas means "child/son of", or "like". Hence, Leonidas is the "son of the lion" or "like a lion".

    Off Topic: Where in history did it say that ephialtis was a hunchback?
    It didn't. Both his physical defects and his Lacedaemonian heritage in the movie were simply artistic license. Ephialtes was a local from the lands surrounding Thermopylae. I don't recall of any line from Herodotus that states he was deformed.



  15. #15
    Darth Caesar's Avatar Hastatas Prior
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    687
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    yep, he wasnt even a spartan by birth either

    LOL, who cares how you say it, we all know who you are talking about


  16. #16
    The Good's Avatar The Man Machine
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    California, U.S.A.
    Posts
    5,761
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Off topic, but I think that they made Ephialtes a hunchback for a reason, so that people would feel sorry for him, kind of. I doubt that the real Ephialtes was a hunchback though.

  17. #17
    The Phantom of TWC's Avatar Murakawa
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    8
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    I agree with Lucius Julius on the pronounciation of Leonidas as "Lay Oh Need Us," that seems to be the most accurate pronounciation I have heard so far, though in Ancient Greek, the "d" makes the "th" sound...

    Signed, your most humble and obedient servant,

    The Phantom of the Opera

  18. #18
    MaximiIian's Avatar Tribunus Augusticlavii
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Louisville, Kentucky
    Posts
    12,747
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    I pronounce it like "Lee-on-I-das", because I speak English, not Greek.

  19. #19
    Mythos's Avatar Pili Prior
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    2,124
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Julius View Post
    Off topic, but I think that they made Ephialtes a hunchback for a reason, so that people would feel sorry for him, kind of. I doubt that the real Ephialtes was a hunchback though.
    Ephialtes was a shepherd from the area close to where Xerxes army was camped. I am pretty sure that a lot of people with flocks in the area wished to see that army, which devoured huge amounts of food daily, gone from their lands. And that is if we assume that he actually existed. The Persians coming from a mountainous land they would know that every pass could be outflanked given enough time.

    Hellenic Air Force - Death, Destruction and Mayhem!

  20. #20
    Anarius's Avatar Sōkō no yari
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Nord-Trøndelag, Norway
    Posts
    1,141
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0

    Default Re: How should "Leonidas" be Pronounced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Julius View Post
    Off topic, but I think that they made Ephialtes a hunchback for a reason, so that people would feel sorry for him, kind of. I doubt that the real Ephialtes was a hunchback though.
    It wasn't "they". Ephialtes was in Frank Miller's comic as a hunchback too. But I agree that he might be meant to be a tragic figure.

    I have no trouble pronouncing greek names, (or names from Europa Barbarorum) it comes natural to me. I've always pronounced it Leh-o-nee-das. When can you english-speakers start pronouncing names right!

    For example: ROMA.

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •