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  1. Re: Common EU language - English vs Esperanto (maybe French/German) - Who cares if a language dies?

    With enough momentum behind it and political will it could be a thing but then all the nationalists would lose their head which it the stumbling block. This can of course work as we've seen it with...
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    Re: The UKIP surge

    Que?
  3. Re: Thinking utopia -- advertisements should be outright banned or severely restricted

    What point still stands exactly?

    That we should take an authoritarian censorship stance because you are subjectively uncomfortable.
  4. Re: Thinking utopia -- advertisements should be outright banned or severely restricted

    Or instead of top down banning and authoritarian approaches you could perhaps encourage critical thinking and other forms of standards that we self impose. Anyone who thinks this is impossible...
  5. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Well Value kind of, but the last proper evaluations were in 1991. They were supposed to be done in 2007 but it never happened. The local council determine the tax and whether it gets a yearly rise...
  6. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Well we don't have a property tax here except when buying or selling. Council tax is supposedly a local tax (though its paid locally it goes into a national pot for redistribution) and pays for...
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    Re: The UKIP surge

    Nick Robinson also said on Radio 4 that he believed it was a war of control over the party in a rather long report on the Morning show that had some interviews to boot and I largely agree though I am...
  8. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    To be fair if it was say 175 billion being handed to the poor on top of what they have now you could take that straight out of the military budget as it is right now so it would be cost neutral.

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    Re: The UKIP surge

    And fired straight away. But you don't mention that.
  10. Re: Sweden to Retrain Concripts in Light of Russian Aggression

    7500 is a tiny amount? Nope. Giving them a months retraining isn't a lot but its a hell of a lot more than the conscripts of Russia get, as they cycle in then out for a year which is how the...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    Well I'd argue that is a secular thing, like it is in the USA that still has it, of course things happen independent of religion as well. The fact is Islam has an unquestionable morality and capital...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    Yup from a nation that executes people unjustifiably by race and mentally inadequate I expect nothing less, you suit your ISIS brothers well. I'm not going to say what I don't feel for the sake of...
  13. Re: Thinking utopia -- advertisements should be outright banned or severely restricted

    Oh dear given he replied to the OP he clearly read the thread. Not agreeing is not the same as not believing this is the lords divine argument, keep trying to explain it, it is not a zero sum game...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    So where we are at it, is if yes some a group do some horrible things take them all and shoot them in the head. Because capital punishment is OK that is OK.

    I mean this from an Islamic tutored...
  15. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    It ruins these topics for the sake of an actual exploration of these ideas, you end up reverting to the base arguments that are non specific generalisations. Ugh, ruins my enthusiasm for a thread.
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    Re: Brussels to UK, Giz a quid geezer!

    I have absolutely zero interest in continuing this debate with you. Everything I have said has been said. You consider an economy that every economist in the world considers going through austerity...
  17. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Oh really.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/73cda788-8457-11e3-9710-00144feab7de.html

    man your easily cowed. And Phier can clearly isn't interested in a broad ranging discussion on this one. Apply...
  18. Do we know anything about human wellbeing?

    Sounds incredibly simple at first. The instinct will be to say of course, of course we know right from wrong, and we know what makes someone happy of course!

    But do we? Can we objectively say via...
  19. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    I completely agree (and again perhaps for us a first!)

    It boils down to fear, hate, prejudice, wrong ideas, unwillingness to consider facts or logic or contemporary thoughts, thinkers and...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    It is an objective an unassailable morality. What was done then is acceptable now. You are looking at things as an atheist, with subjectivist morality that is not how others look at it.

    Your...
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    Re: Rojava

    You will not find a man more willing than I to condemn the iniquities of the British Empire, they were legion and far worse were perpetuated after this date, this was merely 1919 and 1947 and 1952-60...
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    Re: Rojava

    source/citation needed.

    You know comparing this, quote is churchill:

    The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only...
  23. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Well well Platon can I say that NAIRU (and I doubt Phier has heard of this, another Friedman theory since he clearly didn't know of NIT labelling it a leftist theory) was a good call to bring up,...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    Its not self defence once someone has surrendered. They are prisoners at that point and acts taken against them is vengeance not self defence. Once they have laid down weapons and surrendered if...
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    How about execution is always wrong no matter what. Self defence it was not, vengeance it was. Those same actions today would be a war crime.

    A fricking war crime.

    And this is universal...
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    Re: Rojava

    Kurds are only a step away from jews in terms of historical persecution, if the jews deserved one then so do they, there is just much stiffer opposition.
  27. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Phier obviously does not know his right wing very well.

    The first person to talk of this that I can think of was Negative Income Tax and none other than the rights personal liberal/libertarian...
  28. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Phier not sure why you are here, you aren't interested in an evidence based discussion or what works in other countries (because America is soooo special) so whatever...not really interested.
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  29. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    The thing about abuse to me is, people either want to abuse it or they want to work.

    Screwing them over isn't going to suddenly change the way they are and force them into jobs (especially if...
  30. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    The thing about abuse to me is, people either want to abuse it or they want to work.

    :wub:ing them over isn't going to suddenly change the way they are and force them into jobs (especially if...
  31. Re: Shocking revelations about torture under Bush's administration

    Ah yes you have yours I have mine. Because Russia used to be communist and is still anti western you'll bend over backwards to give them any possible leeway. More bias than politburo propaganda.
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    Poll: Re: ISIS and Islam

    I was not remotely impressed by them either.
  33. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    The UK system is a conditional approach that can lead to benefits being denied (happened to my friend before he had even received one payment) the other one is a guarantee not a conditional.

    So...
  34. Re: Could Singapore's approach to drug control work in the west? And how to deal with addicts?

    No actually we are not. We are arguing whether or not Singapores approach could work in the West and how to deal with addicts.

    Still waiting on anyone providing numbers if they think that is...
  35. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    Yes clearly what works in 1 or 2 or 10 countries without an apocalypse spells instant doom for the USA.

    I hear the same arguments for the gigantic prison system, punishment over rehabilitation. ...
  36. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    I'm wondering how it would be any different say in the UK, to them getting the money they've always got but not being randomly occasionally deprived of it and instead of having to go through a...
  37. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    The evidence in the video was that it was much cheaper. Can you provide me with evidence to the contrary? Furthermore in the link I posted to Dante is British examples of people being denied money...
  38. Re: United Ireland: Understanding the Economic Benefits

    Which country is doing better Ireland or the UK.

    There is your answer.
  39. Re: Basic Income and ending poverty in the USA for $175bn

    I mean clearly in my country and the USA as I mentioned there are people going hungry and its not "few enough" in the video experiments were tried where people were given money and it was shown not...
  40. Re: Prostitution, should it still be illegal?

    Ultimately I am not so keen to say that men should be criminalised though. Harm as a more general concept to the activity does not seem to constitute victimhood and therefore what I would constitute...
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