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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    I found some face composites made using the faces of the athletes that competed in the 2012 London Olympics. It's kind of cool seeing the differences in phenotypes.

    https://imgur.com/a/uW3mk
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Hey Sumskilz, I was looking at these two PCA plots:
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  3. Re: The Middle East be a more peaceful place if the state of Isreal was never established.

    It's as if Muslims sympathize with their coreligionists. Woah, how novel.
  4. Re: The Middle East be a more peaceful place if the state of Isreal was never established.

    It's pretty sad that you think that the 1948 war was an attempted genocide. There were thousands of Jews in the Arab world, after the loss in 1948 they were expelled not massacred. If the objective...
  5. Re: The Middle East be a more peaceful place if the state of Isreal was never established.

    Islamism and Islamic modernism have been around since the late Tanzimat period, and it was as you said the answer to modernity and Ottoman failure to catch up to Western imperial powers. Early key...
  6. Re: The Middle East be a more peaceful place if the state of Isreal was never established.

    I was talking about the conflict itself and what led to it in the first place. The outcome was the best anyone could have hoped for, largely thanks to Sultan Qaboos's visionary leadership. I have...
  7. Re: The Middle East be a more peaceful place if the state of Isreal was never established.

    That's a very revisionist narrative of what happened in the middle east. The "obsession with militarization" as you put it wasn't because of the imaginary Israeli boogeyman as you seem to insinuate....
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Oh woops, I somehow didn't notice the mention of isotope analysis in your first post.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Wait, why does he cluster with Egypt at all? I thought Egypt was mostly "Back-to-Africa" at this point?
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    I was wondering sumskilz, are there any studies done on Iraqis and Gulf Arabs?
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of North Africa

    So I was looking at the Dodecad v3 spreadsheet and I'm seeing some weird numbers. The two Egyptian groups are scoring a measly 6.2% and 8.3% for the NorthWest African component. Compared that to...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of North Africa

    Are there any Tunisian Arab samples? It would be interesting to see how they compare with the rest of the Maghreb.

    Also, why do the Egyptians in this study show more SSA than the ones from this...
  13. Re: Why do people blame the USA for Middle East oppression?

    It is an erroneous belief that "Muslim strongmen are a still needed reality", despite the fact that the destabilization in Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria was in large part due to the policies...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    http://i.imgur.com/scIDqvu.png

    Don't really know what to make of it, besides that I cluster pretty close to Turks/Iranians. I'm completely outside of the Jordanian cluster, which is weird.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Are there any PCA plot generators out there? I want to see where I'd end up.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Alright, back to your point about PCA plots. The Oracle single population sharing gives you "genetic distance" from the top 20 closest populations. Does that really mean genetic distance like you...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Another question if possible. How exactly does this calculator (or any other calculators and studies) figure out what admixture corresponds to which ancient populations? So for example: how do you...
  18. Re: ISIS would attack the West even if Western troops and all its civilians left the Middle East entirely

    The countries that have the most significant sympathy are detached from the conflict with ISIS. Also consider that only 10% more Christian Nigerians voted unfavorably than Muslims Nigerians (72% vs...
  19. Re: Obummer appoints Islamic sympathizer to combat ISIS

    Holy :wub:, OP is literally a walking talking parody of the American far right. This is hilarious.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Perfect, that makes total sense. Everything is starting to come together now.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    I'd like to revive this thread, if you don't mind Sumskilz. I was going over this study that you linked earlier: http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316

    I'm...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Is that typical of Palestinians? Seems kind of high. Also I just found out that one of my great grandmothers was Turkish/Circassian, I had to contact some cousins back home about this one because my...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Alright I finally get what you mean. Ancient heritage (like the Berber and Levantine components) won't show up because they pre-date 1500 AD, at which point North Africa and Middle east are already...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    So the indigenous North African component associated with Copts, for example, that's being categorized under "Middle Eastern"? Doesn't that make it difficult to distinguish between the indigenous...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Here's the PCA plot:

    http://i.imgur.com/Rv4KKGA.png

    Looks like I'm right in the middle. I don't show up on the African one at all. I'm still sort of confused, this PCA includes Palestinians and...
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Alright so here are my results from the 23andme test:

    http://i.imgur.com/DikA9yI.png

    For my paternal line: E1b1b1a haplogroup
    For the maternal line: T1a mtDNA

    I expected the North African...
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    Re: Iranian cartoonist on trial.

    All that would accomplish is sideline the issue of human rights abuses in Iran and unite the country under the banner of self-defense. I know these subtleties are lost on you, I mean they would for...
  28. Re: Why do people blame the USA for Middle East oppression?

    I mean is this really a serious question? To put it broadly, the US seeks to maintain its hegemony in the middle east by preventing the rise of any regional power that can challenge it's influence....
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    Re: Israel, Palestine and Hate Speech

    Much like the rest of your lies, this is complete BS. Ottoman pogroms were nonexistent until the 19th century when the central government declined. On the contrary, the Jewish presence in Palestine...
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    Re: Israel, Palestine and Hate Speech

    Palestinians literally worse than Hitler.
  31. Re: Indian Woman mutilated by Saudi employer. Slavery in the Islamic world.

    Your hard on for Kemalism and casual bigotry not withstanding, slavery was outlawed in 1890 in the Ottoman Empire (and Persia).
  32. Re: Police in Jerusalem bar Palestinians from entering Old City after stabbings

    Those poor poor settlers, they'd have to stop bulldozing Palestinian property and rent a U-haul. Let me play a sad song on the world's smallest violin.
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    There's always the option of ending the occupation and leaving us alone. Viola, no more condemnation, no more stabbings, and Palestinians no longer have to decide between taking a shower and washing...
  34. Re: Police in Jerusalem bar Palestinians from entering Old City after stabbings

    The majority of Americans do not remember the Indian massacre of 1622. Nobody mourns the dead, nobody cares. Americans do celebrate the 4th of July, however. Don't fret it, in several decades you...
  35. Re: Police in Jerusalem bar Palestinians from entering Old City after stabbings

    Small price to pay for destroying a nation and usurping it's land. I don't see why Israelis are angry, they should be celebrating it was only 2 deaths and not an intifada's worth of casualties.
  36. Re: Why Muslims are doomed to be victims of western policies

    HAHAHA, what is this garbage? You want to post some citations here bud? Because its an interesting thesis you got here.
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    Poll: Re: Are you Vegetarian?

    I don't particularly care for the ethical argument vegetarians make. Killing animals is cruel? Boo hoo, take it up with whatever higher power decided to create the universe this way. Animals are...
  38. Re: Topless feminists storm stage at Muslim conference in France, get kicked off stage, arrested

    I thought the whole point of marriage was to have the ability to beat your wife? Well this sucks, I'm going to have to reconsider my views on family values.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Fine by me, I don't really care what they do with my genetic information. Thanks for the heads up though.
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    Re: The Archaeogenetics of the Middle East

    Thank you, I placed an order. I'll share the results here once they're done.
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