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Switzerland gained a new overlord and many improvements were done.

List of accomplishments:
- Increased income by over 60 monthly, giving Switzerland a spot in the top 5(?)
- Reduced insane...

What's the income of all players?

France:

- Conquered about half of Spain.
- Ate various bits of Burgundy.
- Started colonizing.
- Funded Tlemcen (sp?) to let it grow as a counter threat to the Ottomans.
- Finished Defensive...

This.

And without someone on Iberia, that'll be French. I'm willing to see what happens, but I don't want another mp game that dies when I'm nearing final perfect form (RIP Ottomans).

So, are the Ottomans actually being allowed? And some of these nation picks are pretty suicidal.

I thought Ottobros were only allowed if there were significant forces in the east to balance them?

Edit: France, Sweden, Brandenburg

This session was almost entirely played on speed 2.

1. The Arabian-Swedish invasion of Russia failed, the war started last session. Arabia was pushed out of the war near the end of last session as...

This session:
1. Waited out of my regency, gaining multiple techs during this.
2. Finished off the war with the Commonwealth that was still ongoing, gaining new land.
3. Conquests of Manchu,...

Map?

I think the game still has plenty of life left in it. It sucks that Mark left because the Commonwealth is still very relevant, but if he doesn't want to come back, then I'm fine with continuing.

Alright, maybe after a bit then, lol. People need to post.

I'm assuming that this weekend will be a no go due to absences as well?

The Mamluks players could be available for this game and one could sub for me, but that's if you guys want to go ahead and do that. I might be around at the start of the session, but I'll be leaving...

I am not "justifying my faith," I have faith because of the reasoning presented. It is hardly a stretch to analyze demographics or provide basic human reactions and power structures to get to the...

It is a no-go atm: both players on the Mamluks are going to be absent this weekend and I will also be gone.

They'll be right back to where they started now, not a few years ago. Even if those assets were totally cashed in on and brought back to Iran for use, sanctions and investigations would be thrown...

How is it stalling and how does it lead to more difficulties in the future? The deal has an enforcement mechanisms built into it, with the impact of said enforcement mechanisms known (sanctions and...

Navarra is either dead or Castille's vassal. We need majors, not minors for game balance.

It can diplovassalize all of them again, though. Mark's already said so. It isn't strong just yet, but it still has plenty of land and still great ideas with free westernization.

It just won't be...

Poland has gotten the snot knocked out of it in the last two wars, but it is insanely strong. It still has amazing potential with free westernization, great national ideas, and easy land to develop....

I will post an update for Muscovy, guardian of all Slavs, in the morning when I wake up. Much action was had. It'll also include a world map.

Tested out blobbing viability as Persia/Bahmanis. They're both decent picks, but not the Ottomans. If our games every get full, they're both valid picks.

Yeah, Ottomans have combat modifiers and better units than most of the world. I can do some good expansion as Muscovy, but it requires far more monarch points to convert cultures, Orthodox religion...

We always used to be plagued by alliances, but I think we've all played enough games to know that sometimes your early game friend becoming an enemy or someone you don't need to help is okay. It...

Europe only still includes the Ottomans and Muscovy, allowing for possibly terrible scenarios. Persia/Bahmanis/others are decent picks to potentially slowdown anyone who might play...

We appear to be in favor of a restart then. Following that, I'll state my country preferences:
- Muscovy
- Persia
- Bahmanis

Do note that asian nations are in a much better spot now, so they'll be far more relevant than before.

I don't mind if it is restarted. As much fun as it is for me to do a WC in a multiplayer game, I do tend to enjoy it if the game lasts a while.

Guys, for the new patch, I've seen some people complaining about it breaking saves if we update, so it might be best to stick to 1.12. The patch is a beta patch anyway, so it is something you have to...

The Ottoman Empire in 1512: http://i.imgur.com/EJN9DMc.jpg
Current vassal states are Wallachia, Athens, Crimea, and Shammar. Iraq was annexed and Crimea acquired through conquest, Shammar was...

Player alliances are an abomination.

We have Cryers on Sweden already.

I'll give a gameplay breakdown of what happened and then a follow-up that is country specific (Ottoman player) for those who lurk.

We decided to go historical nations. We had France, Aragon,...

We can just figure it out in chat before the game starts.

Yeah, what is happening?

Playing on a historical map would be either fine or silly. There are lots of things to consider:
- tech based on capitol/majority of developed provinces (if they're in a place that should have...

I guess.


I really agree with Poach wholeheartedly on this one. As amusing as "Swag City" or "ISIS" can be in a custom game, it really takes away from the atmosphere for me.

That really makes the game way too easy to cheese. There's basically no reason to take any other techgroup than western then. It starts at 0 for most of those regions....

Thanks! I mean, I don't...

1, 13, 25 -- are tech rules going to be reasonable? Or is it going to be western for anyone who feels like it?

I voted against custom nations. Should we avoid the plague that are custom nations, I shall be available to fight newbs and rule the world again. Fear me, mortals!