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The motion is being voted upon

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=113226

Yes, well, I'm not a normal person and I don't do convention ;)

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ClientAlright...well I'd like to be a Civitate in this forum community. I must say - this has been the very first forum I've ever been a member of that actually has some of the more...

Also welcome Thanatos, who arrived over the weekend, got de-arrived, and has once more arrived

Thanks Rag :)

a) This requires a week of discussion before it may be moved to the vote. Thus, no, you don't move to stage two.
b) I am requesting that this be left open an additional two days to...

Could you tell us which polls were affected? Since I just looked at one whose vote totals were the same before and after the loss...

I cannot accept the ambivalent support shown by makanyane as support, for which I apologise - it is unconfirmed and conditional. (On the other hand that by Beli is not)

Then what, precisely, is it?

Because - stemming from his own capitalist beliefs - he presumes all others have the same beliefs, which set man against man and mean he does nothing not for his own benefits.

And I see the same evidence and interpret it differently... meaning what, I get to torture you because I believe you tortured an innocent person?



No. If you think prison is a resort, then try...

Hardly. Those who fight for nothing stand for a common humanity. I would never argue Ghandi, or Russell, stood for nothing. Or Martin Luther King Jr. They all very demonstrably in their own way...

Actually, its a strongly supported assertion. Evolution has been observed; fossil records demonstrate pre-human creatures. The observed principle of evolution is "Survival of the fittest". 2+2+2=6.

Hardly. Its a semi-democratic regime, kept secular by the army, and kept democratic by the same.

This thread is about torture; so come to a conclusion ;) The simplest way to do it is to ask whether you'd ever feel comfortable torturing someone...

Why do humans exist? Because we evolved as "fit" organisms given the environment of the planet. One "why" answered...

You forget, I'm not a musical traditionalist ;) Until they start going into battle to the sound of Iron Maiden rather than Wagner that is :laughter:

Yes, made up of the regular soldiery - well, not in that case, but only because they aren't regular soldiery.

Oh, I accept all that (well, other than band members :P) but I'm still dubious about the 10:1 ratio... *shrugs*

Kiljan, its a mistake repeated down US history... eg, Cuba? Castro approached the...

Yes, I know, but those still should not end up at 10 to 1; or rather, 10 members of the military to one member of the military. Can't you Yanks do capitalist privatisation right? :P

Oh, and band...

Or, its a useless metaphysical question rendered pointless by the knowledge that until we have perfect knowledge of the order we can't even begin to have knowledge of the purpose. but that's...

They can - its just that they tend not to. The only ones that do are the wholly "disorganised" religions, and whether they are in fact religions is questionable.

Logistically that's pretty appalling especially given how much support can be doubled up, and given how much is farmed out...

Now, you're just trying to make younglings like me jealous :P

At least Queen were the most camp band out there, surely?

Except that the military is militantly secular; its willing to orchestrate a coup to prevent an Islamic government getting into power based on the popular vote, and to mount a coup against said...

And therefore not being the keystones of the Christian religion? (Then again Jesus was a Jew so...)

tBP will be all over you man...

Oh yes of course. Now, one presumes for obvious reasons that this is tongue in cheek, right?

Church of England.

Well its something to do with them being Jews and not Christians, at a guess?

Nice hair.

But it can't work. I mean if insurgents were non-native (not the case), not armed (not the case), and not pretty nationwide already (not the case), it might work. It would certainly work against...

Well, for a start one might assume Christ was, no?

See, those stances are the product of a principled one based on faith but which are wholly irrational and irreconcileable with the facts. He's a good influence on some of the Christian world,...

No, he has a plan that will kill many without overmuch benefit. Continual offence after offence works in conventional warfare, but who can he launch offences against except civilians? And then what...

I'm not so sure. They aren't relevant in western nations, particularly, but only because we have exported the prole-creating jobs, and have taken on board much Marxist (and for that matter pre-Marx...

Bollocks. No one can do it will half-holding true and half-not, but actually holding true and having a good plan would allow you to do it.

There was the Hogfather, which was pretty well done, but I'd have preferred to see Lee as death. And there are... about 30 books, now, I think.

Get some Discworlds given the movie treatment. Thud! or Guards, Guards perhaps - tho' Thief of Time would be awesome. And Christopher Lee has to play Death ;)

Yeah. I mean come on, who managed to beat Queen's exuberance in their live performances, ever? This links to GoogleVideo not YouTube, but complete LiveAid performance - Freddie is probably the only...

That guy is actually quite clearly tongue-in-cheek, in that interview. That or somewhat insane. Yes, the UK is to blame for Vietnam... the French colonial war. And so on. Of course, Christine...