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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Syria's an ally of Iran. You take out Syria, you end up hurting Iran leaving it alone with no real allies. Disrupts Hezbollah as well even though that only benefits. Israel. I don't think i have it...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    That logic is retarded. Just because other countries are supporting terror groups, doesn't mean yours should as well. What makes you any different from turkey, Qatar, and the KSA if you do the same...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Some are, but the crimes committed by rebel groups or the government couldn't have been found out without these people. Or the SOHR, but they are "biased"


    Agreed.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Facts? You don't spout facts, you spout propaganda. And then you deflect any criticism against the Syrian regime if it comes from the SOHR. Sorry, not everyone is this stupid Julia. They can read UN...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    LOL. You of all people accusing me of this? The person who plain out has posted stories from the Syrian state news and taken them seriously? Re-read my edited post.



    No, its all UN reports. I...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    You aren't addressing my point the Syrian regime and its allies have been accused of worse crimes than the FSA. Want me to get the UN report?


    In your opinion. The SAA and its allies use barrel...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Yes, the US is allying itself to Al-Qaeda by bombing it. Smart idea.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    So? And you left out the YPG< who is actually advancing against the IS, unlike the SAA and Hezbollah. Does not change the war crimes they have committed either.


    Hezbollah's' bombed and killed...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Sure, if you ignore Hezbollah's long history as a terror group. And the UN reports on the Syrian regime and its allies war crimes in Syria.


    Again what supplies? The US has air dropped weapons to...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Last time i checked, only the Syrian regime is actually helping terrorists (Hezbollah) while the US is bombing them.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    http://news.yahoo.com/u-defend-syrian-rebels-airpower-including-assad-015955787.html


    Obama has authorized airstrikes to defend the Syrian rebels (FSA) against not only the Islamic state, but...
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    Re: Ukraine and Russia Developments, Thread 3

    China voted yes too, are they biased against Serbia as well? Did they have a pro-Western dictatorship installed too? All 15 voted yes. You need to prove the bias of all 15. I'm waiting.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Syrian_Revolutionary_and_Opposition_Forces

    The Syrina Naiotnla council you just sourced Flavius, does not represent the opposition. They are...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Well the US isn't supporting Al-nusra and is bombing them so i don't get your point.
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    Re: Ukraine and Russia Developments, Thread 3

    All 15 Security Council members voted yes, including Russia. How is it biased?
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Is youtube now a source flavius? Sorry, it isn't. You can't even prove when their videos were even made. Typical pro-Assad crowd here can't ever get any real sources. Just youtube and twitter.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    LOL. You are claiming the rebels have never captured Syrian army stocks of ammunition and weapons? This is hilarious mith even for you.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    TOWs aren't the only anti-tank missiles in the world. The rebels have captured anti-tank missiles from the Syrian Army themselves. There just simply isn't enough TOWs in rebel possession to really...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    TOWs have helped the rebels, but to say the war would be over 2 years ago if they didn't have them is ridiculous at best.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    According to the Pentagon, those aren't the new US trained rebels. If they were, the US would usually remain silent on the issue but it seems with this one they are confident it wasn't the 60 they...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    A snap election isn't going to save the AKP is everyone just votes against them again.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-qaeda-syria-attack_55bb6d40e4b06363d5a1ad7e?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

    Al-Nusra is fighting US-backed rebel in Northern Syria, apparently Division 30. Also...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Did anyone say they couldn't train other rebels to do so? Only those 60 have to follow the deal. The ones they would train are not part of the program and not subject to its restrictions.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    The US bombs Al-Nusra who attacks the FSA and takes their :wub:. I doubt they care about that. They are against the IS too, so i doubt they care about the US bombing them either. Thats the only...
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    No Papay you can since the rebels aren't a monolithic block. They are separate groups and separate factions. Southern Front is still receiving US weapons and aid, but they need more help. Thsoe 60...
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    Why the US released 60 of those guys into Northern Syria and not the South where they could do good, i'll never understand. Cooperating with turkey on training the rebels has backfired. In fact,...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Yes but securing Turkmen lands is not advancing against the IS homeland. I've pointed this out like 5 times now. I'm not grasping at straws, you just keep changing your position to deflect my...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    I already quoted your original post before in the debate where you directly said Turkey would arm and train turkmen to deal with threats across the border. Nothing about advancing into IS territory. ...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    you can kindly go back and re-read my posts. Now you're just lying about what you said. The Turk men would deal with threats across the border. Not advancing against the IS.

    And now you are...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    I did address it, you ignored it, like you continue to do all my points. You have no idea who the STB are, what they numbers are, where they fight, or even who they fought for. And you want to arm...
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    Where is STB operating in Syria? Tell me. All sources about them are from 2013. What are the STB's numbers currently? I'm not looking up sources for you. Its you who needs to prove there is a Syrian...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    I tried to find a better one, but can't. That map is just horrible.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Twttter and youtube, the most relible of sources.

    Do i really have to point out they are talking about Al-Nusra groups in the South?




    What? Because Al-Nusra in the South participates in...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Only some FSA were even trained by America, and all of them outside turkey. The rest formed inside and were based inside Syria or Jordan. your plan now involves Turkish forces inside Syria which is...
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    Re: Ukraine and Russia Developments, Thread 3

    Did these includes tanks? Unless we know what the secret agreement was, the defense-cooperation agreements could have been about anything other than tanks.

    Ukraine at this time had put all of its...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Yep and it either involved the US dropping weapons to the Kurds or in the case of the FSA, training them outside the country. You did know that right? so no, i haven't dorpped my claim. Turkmen rebel...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    How is the Turkish Army going to train and arm a bunch of Turkmen if they are in Syria? Unless turkey plans on occupying part of Syria to do the training and arming, the groups will be based in...
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    Did you even read your source? They are referring to a different incident.



    The incident we are talking about happened days earlier:



    It always helps to read your sources.
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Yes you did, i can quote the post if you want. The Kurds only fought the SAA for a brief time in 2013 and then they stopped. This was before any kind of Western help was going to the Kurds. Its not...
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    Re: ISIL War in Iraq and Syria

    Turkish troops, or Turkish-supported rebels. Which doesn't mean the FSA.
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