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I couldn't find a specific thread for unit balance so i thought id start one here:
These are only first impressions
- axe units dont seem to have a high attack, often knights with a one handed sword have higher attack than axe weapons.
-norman knights have a higher defence than later units with plate armour.
All axe weapons have AP which means they only consider half of the enemy's armor, therefore they should have a lower attack to balance things out.
i have question about something similliar
how can i change unit cards? i want to change the templars and hospitallers charge back to 8. how i do that? (i dont open a new topic cuz everytime i try the page goes blank and nothings happend)
Thanks for quick reply cymera but in my opinion the axe units are still underpowered. Id also prefer more devastating gunpowder.
Kobi118:
You have to edit the export_descr_unit file (with notepad) in your rtj/data folder. Use crl+f to find templars and edit away.
Read the text at the top of the file first.
Well, I believe this mod, like many others will attempt to go for balance, and seeing as you know enough about the EDU and the EDB files you can change it all to your preference. I certainly do, I change many of the unit stats and building capabilities to my own tastes.
i dont understand what exacly i need to change here to get it back to 8, can some1 tell me what i need to change?
type Knights Templar
dictionary Knights_Templar ; Knights Templar
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner unit templars
soldier Knights_Templar, 32, 0, 0.5
mount mailed horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, knight
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 12, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 0.35
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 13, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 30, 0.35
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 10, 10, 4, metal
;stat_armour_ex 7, 8, 0, 0, 5, 4, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, -2, -4, 0
stat_mental 17, impetuous, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay -25000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1150, 290, 130, 100, 1150, 4, 220
armour_ug_levels 3, 4, 5
armour_ug_models Knights_Templar, Knights_Templar_ug1, Knights_Templar_ug1
ownership england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary
;unit_info 13, 0, 16
type Knights Hospitaller
dictionary Knights_Hospitaller ; Knights Hospitaller
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner unit hospitaller
soldier Knights_Hospitaller, 32, 0, 0.5
mount barded horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, knight
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 13, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 0.35
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 14, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 30, 0.35
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 10, 4, metal
;stat_armour_ex 7, 8, 9, 0, 5, 4, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, -2, -4, 0
stat_mental 17, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay -25000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1190, 290, 130, 100, 1190, 4, 220
armour_ug_levels 3, 4, 5, 5
armour_ug_models Knights_Hospitaller, Knights_Hospitaller_ug1, Knights_Hospitaller_ug2, Knights_Hospitaller_ug2
ownership england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary
;unit_info 13, 0, 16
after the 1.2 patch all units EDU will chanage anyway and besure I will make it as balanced and acurate as possible
but untill then, what i need to change now to get the charge to normal?
and something else, i noticed that there is a list of factions they can be recruited by, so if i add other faction, the other faction also will be able to recruit them?
btw, thanks for the mod Rammstein, its really good
stat_pri 12, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 0.35
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 13, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 30, 0.35
charge value in red should be 8 and 4 normaly
thanks!
Hi, i am totaly new in these things. Can you help me, i dont know how to give new units to other factions. For examle if i want France to have man at arms which file should i edit.
P.S. Sorry for my bad english i hope you managed to understand :)
if your new to these things it is really complicated. There are several files giving the unit to the faction, allocating voice sets, setting up the textures, then setting them up in the campaign. Ramm could tell you but its really not simple.:huh:
I like the way elite units are more powerfull - especially forlorn hope, but in a battle between forlorn hope and more pricey battlefield assasins the forlorn hope come out on top. The fh have higher stats as well - is the increased price to take account of the battle assasins special ability?
I Still think the norman knights should have reduced defence compared to other plate armoured units- perhaps you could up their morale to keep them special.
Off topic:
Im a big fan of the long road mod, his method of using events - eg "mail armour invented" to determine when units become available allows you time to build armies which reflect a specific era until new developments spark an arms race to create a more high tech army.
What do you think about using this as a method of recruitment, it would be alot of work - it seems much better than the current trend in mods of creating events that do no more than create pop ups of text every other turn and have no baring on the game.
Interesting, that sounds quite good, however, you are correct, not only is it a lot of work, but it is no longer original, this might mean that the team may not want to go for it if it has been done. Nevertheless, good idea to bring up :)
I like this idea a lot too, we'll see in the future. Keep the faith :thumbsup2
Looking at the dismounted mailed knights and sergeant swordsmen, i like the fact that you've made the knights more powerful than sergeants but the mailed knights have a higher defence than the swordsmen, who have shields- i think they both have mail armour so where are they getting this extra defence.
Perhaps something to address once the sheild bug is fixed.
p.s i cant stand the new dismouted gothic knight textures.
Maybe try and be less blunt? That was Rammstein's work, I thought he did a good job, obviously everyone has their own opinions, but try and tread a little lighter plz. :thumbsup2Quote:
Originally Posted by onefistedboxer