i thought it would be appropriate to have a page for discussing things like the role of Lyanna and 'the kingslayer' so here it is!
do you have any suggestions? I say let the Kingslayer be a general for Targaryen.
Not sure about Lyanna's implementation.
i think king-slayer should be general for targs as should all kingsguard, but i think there should be some way to incorperate his 'kingslaying' through a script. i will make him have little loyalty so he can always change sides rather easily though. with lyanna she should be a princess on dragonstone with a trait or script or somthing which removes movement , like the one on the scribes in the first game.
wasn't she somewhere near Dorne though ? (Tower of Joy)
I'm not sure about Lyanna's implementation. Even if you keep her like that you could do something like send a diplomat to her and marry her to your faction leader/heir and that would be weird. If you think about it she never participated in the war. She was one of the reasons but you have her being kidnapped just before the War and then Ned finds her dying after the War is over.
Whatever the fate of the War I think Lyanna would have been dead.
I think a more important thing to talk about is the map. House Grafton is seriously weak. It needs some more settlements (2-3), maybe add the Sister Isles, Coldwater and another one called the Paps on the East coast and remove Runestone from House Grafton.
im so bad when it comes to places, i thought that it wa on dragonstone but noobas is right it is in the red mountains of dorne. i think lyanna should just be an ancillary then?
also prophet i agree about grafton but in reality they were weak and got beaten rather quickly in the war (me thinks), i think in terms of gameplay it would be better to stretch the truth by saying that they took runestone instead of letting them have 1 settlement nd ultimatelly bieng wipped out rather quickly. i agree about adding sisterton though.
also guys should i feature all of the kings-guard or just the important ones?
Well I saw it mentioned that there were other loyalist lords in the Vale. Problem is except for the Lord of Sisterton and Lord Grafton thee is no other name or anything.
Could it be possible to have a script based on the one in the alpha and in the new enhanced version? I mean a script where if you are one of the rebel factions, and Robert/Jon/Ned dies you can go back into the King's Peace. You pay a certain amount of money and you are at peace with all the loyalists and at war with all the rebels. You can base it on the claim kingship option
Also a thing that bugged me in all mods. You can recruit a general bodyguard unit (which is basically recruit a general) in the capitals of each faction. Can you make it so that all generals recruited in Riverrun have riverlord names, all generals recruited in Storm's End have stormlord names ? Something to represent that when you kill for instance the Tullys, not all Houses from the Riverlands die with the faction
Well if I'm not mistaken some of the Kingsguard were left at the Tower of Joy during the entire war. Adding them all would give the Targaryens allot of generals to begin with. (You have 7 members of the kingsguard, Rhaegar, Aerys, Vyseris as a young boy still growing up, Lord Darry because his house was loyalist and you need to represent him somehow, + whatever Crownland lords might have been active at the time.)
im afraid i dont think that is possible as each faction has a set group of names, and i dont think they can be changed via scripting.
btw guys i have a couple of uncertainty's about the targs
1) should i include all kingsguard
2) i have given them stoney sept, driftmark and dragonstone but would they have other lands for example maidenpool and saltpans?
I don't know of saltpans, but maidenpool definately
However, the wealth of the family and the town has been significantly reduced since House Mooton chose to side with the Targaryens (their kings) against the Tullys (their liege lords) during Robert's Rebellion.
from here: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Mooton
thanks prophet, i will add miadenpool to targs but leave saltpans. i will also make a lord mooton