Conversation Between pspguy123 and Poet

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  1. Happy to see your level of morality that you like Musharraf, just because he tried to secularize the country. You are living in America and your avatr is from a dictator's avatar. Such a liberal thoughts we surely do not need.
  2. lol. Zaid hamid is 100% Jackass.
  3. He is a rightist, but a bit stupid to be my ideal.
  4. are you a fan of zaid hamid?
  5. No Bro! here but I would differ with you. Religion is not state's problem, as everyone has right to adopt any religion he wants to adopt, but religion is state's matter in case of Muslims. Pakistan was founded on model of first Islamic state of Medina Munawwara. It was founded on the base of religion and it would (God forbids) vanish if we would cut it from religion. Religion and state are united in Islam as Prophet (pbuh) was at the same time a religious leader and head of the state. Same like that Caliphs have been used to be Imams and heads of state also. Quaid-e-Azam clearly said that constitution of Pakistan was made 1300 years ago and that those people are hypocrites who think that Sharia Laws would not be imposed as state laws in Pakistan. Your concern was right, and many times I also feel like that, and no private religious organization or person has right to impose Islam on Muslims, but it is a right and duty of a Muslim Government which first adopts strict principles of welfare and social security for itself.So I know you would not agree, let us agree to disagree.
  6. No. The governmenent has not right to uphold what it sees as "islamic", especially when it's run by half-literate dumb who don't know anything about Islam. Government and religion should be kept far apart. You want to be a wahahbi? fine with me. You want to be a christian? fine with me. The government should have nothing to do with the religion of it's citizens.
  7. I understand you concern. Wearing a cross necklace, cross is Christians' identity, it means to a Muslim a wrong definition of what happened with Jesus, so when you wear people talk about that, but you can ignore them and they do not have any right to force you to remove that necklace. Wearing burqa or hijab is not Allah's orders, but they are just some tools which can help women in fulfilling Quranic orders of veil, jeans, I am sorry doesn't help to follow that order. Even then, it is right of no body but a Government to stop women or men from doing unIslamic acts, and only that Government which takes care of people and has some solid social security system first. I do not support Zia. He corrupted Islam. Islam is light of divine guidance. Do you know that in Scandinavian countries, law of social security is called Omar law. I think, people should be ordered to follow religion, but by only Government and that Government who first for itself adopt Islamic strict principals. Who makes state a welfare state. So are you clear now?
  8. They didn't. But let me ask you, why is it that a person in Pakistan can't walk outside wearing shorts or a cross necklace without someone coming up to them and telling them to be a good muslim? Why is it that I constantly get texts from other people telling me to say "allah hafiz" instead of "khuda hafiz"? Why is that wearing a burka is encouraged, but wearing jeans isn't? Look at pictures of Pakistan from the 1960's. Total religious freedom. Compare it with today. Not even close.
  9. You are right, if you do not want to be Muslim, no one should force you, but when Imran Khan or other rightists forced Pakistani non-Muslims to be muslims?
  10. Yes my ancestors are in fact Rajputs of India, so? Should I advocate a Confederation of India and Pakistan? And no and I am not pro-Arab or what ever you say. It is what we call common values. I like turks much more than arabs.But the reason for liking saladin is not because he was arab. It is idiotic if you think so. Fact is that because he was a true Muslim, I like him. My nation is Islam as the country Prophet (pbuh) founded was not only consisted of Meccans, or Arabs, but of Muslim majority. Jamal Abdul Nasir was an arab, according to your definition I should like him, but I hate him and Saudi kings as they used to believe on Arab nationality, not Muslim nationality.
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